Lush has fallen

[WomanBornNotWorn]

One more shop to walk past

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Lush has been a place to avoid for quite some time now. No great hardship for me as I think that their stuff is nasty tat anyway.

...You didn't volunteer for the voluntary event?

What shall we put in your appraisal? "Not a team player....?"

There’s volunteering and volunteering though, isn’t there?

An employer asking staff to “volunteer” for a work event during work time is the sort of scenario where staff may feel unable to say no for fear of negative consequences.

I used to buy loads from lush. Admittedly I did have to be careful their products didn't upset my vag. Then the arrogance of their police thing. I know the undercover police did awful things to women, but lush campaign was badly handled.

Lush are the wokest of the woke.

Trans media watch seems to focus on shutting down debate. Leading light of everything is transphobic.

Nice of lush to fundraise for them.

Customers were encouraged to kiss the staffs body to leave a lipstick print...which was of coursed abused by some men
I rarely have a wtf moment because not much surprises me anymore, but, wtf?

I was warned off their stuff. Then I was asked by a friend to help out raising money for a local womens charity (not woke and knows what a woman is) They were supported by Lush and the branch that hosted us were really lovely and very supportive. So they are prepared to raise money for a non woke women's charity

This thread from someone who worked in Lush really put me off the company. Nowhere near as ethical as they portray themselves:

twitter.com/mondayfake/status/1195255732695961603

Just watched a few seconds of that 'torture' video linked above, it was all I could stomach.

This company is utterly abhorrent. I had no idea, just thought their products stank. Naked staff and torture videos. So edgy.

Don't think I can say much more without being very sweary.

I suspected that Lush weren't quite as environmental as they made out, and I remember their poorly judge protest about the police etc. And the staff just pester you non-stop. I like their shampoo bars, but I'm out now too 🙂.

Apparently they pester you all the time because management shout at them if they don't. Also WTF with the having the doors open all the time?

I'll never find the thread but a while ago someone posted about having to do some sort of staff H&s assessment for a Lush employee who identified as a pony and wore a tail.

It was the Plane Stupid stuff that pissed me off and I don’t even travel.

This is 11 years ago

www.standard.co.uk/news/millionaire-who-funded-stansted-protest-has-lush-shops-at-airports-6916972.html

Trans Media Watch are a charity dedicated to improving media coverage of trans and intersex issues.
So, yet another bunch of TRAs using the medical issues of intersex people to validate their beliefs.

Like lots of you here, the awful pong of their shops has always put me off and I can't imagine it's good for the shop assistants. This is just one more reason wo avoid them.

As PPs say Lush is on my boycott list and has been for some time.

They use palm oil (SLS) and have a palm oil free range but they say sometimes you just have to use it. You don't. It's just a cheap ingredient. They are honest in their labelling though.

I did hear about them using footage from an animal charity they declined to support and then didn't credit them or donate. Can't remember the details but it appeared to be that they are not what they seem.

And yes the mermaids money and the police campaign is weird, even if you put aside the blatant misogyny and bullying.

Much better plastic free products online and delivered in paper/cardboard. DM for details if you're looking for an alternative, I don't sell anything I've just been avoiding Lush for a loooooong time.

@OhHolyJesus I tried Lush for plastic-free packaging hair stuff and their products were awful.

I did like their stuff once, but have been boycotting them for a good while already due to the combination of:
-Leaning more about how staff are treated, especially female staff, such as the lipstick kissing thing (a bad idea all round, but must have been particularly horrendous for anyone who's suffered abuse for example)

• Their Twitter account insisting on referring to women as "cis", and then doubling down on it when challenged by women who pointed out they found it offensive

-Supporting Mermaids. I never did get round to writing them a letter to tell them why though, so I must try to get that done (not much point boycotting if they don't know that I am and why!).

Lush is the only shop I actively avoid. Used to like their products but they lost me with their advertising campaign nonsense a long time ago. Preachy bastards.

So, yet another bunch of TRAs using the medical issues of intersex people to validate their beliefs

The thing is, atm intersex people are arguing to be left out of it, but the younger ones will grown up being fully indoctrinated

Lush fell yonks ago.

+1

I thought you meant the shops were closing and I would no longer have to encounter the stench in a particular stretch of the shopping centre. Ahhh, well, we can all hope can't we?

I was also hoping you meant they’d gone bust...

@puds11 Don't educate yourself on trans issues on Mumsnet, look at other sources for a balanced view. There is a disgusting amount of prejudice allowed on Mumsnet against trans people, I have no idea why it is tolerated. Mumsnet has its uses, and can be a good resource, but for some reason hatred towards trans people is allowed (and to autistic/people with asperger's too, but that's a whole other thread)

Hatred towards trans people is not allowed, see the FWR talk guidelines pinned at the top of the board.

But being trans doesn't mean that someone is unable to be criticised - even the royal family aren't off-limits on MN! That would be silly.

Definitely read the words of transwomen though because it does provide an education. If you have questions, it can be tricky to get answers to them on MN - I asked an OP what they meant by 'female gender' the other day and I'm still waiting for a response!

Lost any minor interest I had in them after the anti police campaign. Havent been in since and never will again.

Not true @ASimpleLampoon
Discussion is encouraged - not shut down here (as would be preferred by a certain section of the community).
That argument has been done many many times before, every time.
Women have a right to speak, get over it.