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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

UK GENERAL ELECTION 2019

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Zenith123 · 29/11/2019 19:46

I really have to impress on everyone just how important it is to get out and vote Labour. The Tories have done nothing for anyone other than their rich buddies, and our present PM is a sexist bigot. Please vote Labour to save the NHS. Please.

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 12/12/2019 11:42

Everyone has seen the "suck dick for socialism" tshirt that Owen Jones was delighted by, right? I want nothing to do with any party that relates to its female members and supporters that way.

SirVixofVixHall · 12/12/2019 11:55

That woman definitely need stollen instead.

LangCleg · 12/12/2019 12:04

Possible better than the alternative in your case, Lang. I'm still on a stollen for breakfast kick and nothing can stop me (until shops stop carrying it post holidays).

Breakfast heretic.

JangoInTheFamilyWay · 12/12/2019 12:32

Right, that's a spoiled ballot for me and I'm gutted. A first ever, I've always voted Libdem and feel so betrayed. If someone reads my message great, if not at least I haven't unintentionally endorsed a woman hating policy dressed up in social justice and glitter

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 12/12/2019 12:33

I mean, I'm happy to share my stollen, but I think a complete set of the works of Andrea Dworkin might help more in the long run.

thehorseandhisboy · 12/12/2019 12:35

Jango my 82 year old mother spoiled her ballot paper for the first time too.

She's devastated at the state of parliamentary politics in this country too.

She was a big fan of Thatcher - as a single parent in the 80s - and now sorely regrets what her policies have brought home to roost.

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 12/12/2019 12:40

I've heard back from our LD candidate's agent. She shares my concerns over self ID and has passed them up the line with a covering note saying she completely gets them and the policy needs to be removed. I know her personally and she is incapable of flannel - now that this is on her radar she will follow up.

Thank God. I can now go and actually vote rather than scrawling my comments all over the ballot paper.

PerkingFaintly · 12/12/2019 12:48

My regular election reminder that YOU CAN DROP A POSTAL VOTE IN AT A POLLING STATION if you haven't posted it in time.

www.gov.uk/voting-in-the-uk#postal-voting

SingingLily · 12/12/2019 15:23

@thetoddleratemyhomework

I want a voice on this too. And I also want a voice on austerity, the NHS and other aspects of Tory policy that I don't wholeheartedly agree with. I am investigating whether I can offer legal advice and assistance to those denied PIP in my constituency.

Thank you, and this ^ to the power of 10! Those are causes I can get behind 100%.

I've just returned from my unexpected stint as a teller and have to be very careful about what I can say. I will therefore relate only my personal experience and let you draw your own conclusions.

The LibDem teller, a very pleasant woman, and I were the only ones present outside the polling station. We agreed to be non-partisan, amicable and share duties. Actually, we had a good old natter and will meet up for a coffee in a couple of weeks as we got on so well.

Just two voters, both men, thought it necessary to advertise their political allegiance. No one else did. Both wore red rosettes. One called me a Tory bitch. The other seemed to regard me as a mother figure which was confusing because he was older than me. Well, it sounded like "mother figure" anyway but I could have misheard.

Those were the only unpleasant incidents.

On the other hand, I was the only one to be offered handshakes or a smile and a thumbs-up - and there were plenty of those.

It is no indication of how people were voting, of course, and should not be read as such.

I also spent some time chatting to the Tory constituency chairman and my nice male Tory county councillor (the one who is definitely GC) and told them I intend to be very active. Both said they were pleased as they want more women's voices at local level so I am meeting up with each of them separately once things are clearer.

You do realise what's happened here, don't you?

I've been radicalised by Mumsnet.

EwwSprouts · 12/12/2019 16:44

SingingLily Am impressed by your plan for deeds.

I would have liked to vote for a female candidate but here they are Green or LD and so counter to my GC position. Don't want Brexit or Momentum. Rock and a hard place so voted Independent which will have no impact as a safe seat.

Raspberry123 · 12/12/2019 17:12

Is this a windup?

thetoddleratemyhomework · 12/12/2019 23:11

I spoiled my ballot in the end. Just couldn't vote for a Tory candidate that is not local and never bothered to reply on self ID (the labour and Lib Dem ones and I wishes they hadn't!!!). I felt that actually by spoiling my ballot I was making more of a point as it is such a safe seat. But @SingingLily I think I am still going to try to join the Tory party - I want a voice.

thetoddleratemyhomework · 12/12/2019 23:13

Oops, was supposed to say that Lab and Lib Dem candidates did reply on self ID and I wished they hadn't (particularly the Lib Dem candidate)!

HandsOffMyRights · 12/12/2019 23:20

Ballot spoiled.

Whatever happens I want to see Andrew O'Neill grilling the puppeteers at Mermaids and Tavistock.

SingingLily · 12/12/2019 23:21

Happy to join forces, if that helps.

theflushedzebra · 13/12/2019 00:04

MustardScreams absolute respect to you for reading, engaging and understanding Wine It's a horrible shock isn't it? Thanks

I don't think I've ever such a stark real-time peaking of a mumsnetter, as I've seen on this thread.

iamright17 · 13/12/2019 00:47

I voted Tory. Never thought i would do this. But I hope they will be the slowest at self ID. Strange to think that self ID means more to me than Brexit. Then again Brexit is not about cutting off my childs penis. Labour, Lib Dem’s and greens are happy to mutilate my child. Brexit is insignificant when you want to keep your child from being mutilated. In my opinion

MustardScreams · 13/12/2019 09:29

Ok so usually I would be despairing at this result. However, I am a little relieved. And I NEVER thought I would say that. I can campaign to make people’s lives better, but I can’t be on board with self-ID in the form that it is currently advocated by Labour/LibDem/Green.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 13/12/2019 09:32

Mustard, WineCakeBrewFlowersStar

You’ve done an amazing job of actually listening & engaging & learning. I hope that doesn’t sound patronising, because I’m really, genuinely impressed with you.

MustardScreams · 13/12/2019 09:51

@EmpressLesbianInChair not patronising at all!

I also want to say thanks to everyone for having the patience to put up with my ranting and still give the time to reply to me. You have all opened my eyes very wide!

SingingLily · 13/12/2019 09:55

MustardScreams, the best way to keep any government sane, decent and honest is to have an opposition that looks and sounds like a credible government-in-waiting.

Jeremy Corbyn, like him or loathe him, was a massive failure on that score alone.

The Labour Party has a golden opportunity now to rebuild - to make itself stronger, better and more in tune with what the country needs. You can be part of that. You can use your passion and willingness to fight for what you believe in to help rebuild a better Labour Party.

That would be of enormous benefit to us all, whatever our political persuasion.

And I say that genuinely, as a Conservative. I need a decent Labour Party to be the Conservative Party's social conscience.

LangCleg · 13/12/2019 10:34

I also want to say thanks to everyone for having the patience to put up with my ranting and still give the time to reply to me. You have all opened my eyes very wide!

You're welcome. And I hope you know how much I mean that.

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