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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Body positive book for toddlers!

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WomanBornNotWorn · 26/11/2019 12:19

Great idea - helping small children

mobile.twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1199056010520023040

Body positive book for toddlers!
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popehilarious · 06/12/2019 15:36

I realise I am phobic of self-identified "authors" who use apostrophes incorrectly
Hmm

KatvonHostileExtremist · 06/12/2019 16:02

Just such a bully, going for Rachel's work now.

I've got the book on my lap. Just picked my copies up from the post office. Will get them into local schools. There is literally no part of this book that is offensive.

Body positive book for toddlers!
vaginafetishist · 06/12/2019 16:38

I am shocked at Clara, she is Shirley Hughes' daughter, so sad.

Clymene · 06/12/2019 16:45

Clara Vulliamy uses Terfblocker. She's blocked even though I've never heard of her.

Why are people so threatened by women talking about women's rights?

Melroses · 06/12/2019 17:02

I'm blocked and I had never even heard of her before today, in spite of buying Shirley Hughes' books for all my little ones. It is surprising who uses terfblocker. Why would one bother with it unless one was out trolling twitter for TRAs?

Most people would have no use for something like that.

I'm going to buy one of Rachel's books now for any future grandchildren (or to donate) as it is lovely and just the sort of thing I would have bought.

LangCleg · 06/12/2019 17:05

Clara terrified of a book for little kids that doesn't teach them to dissociate from their bodies, with all the safeguarding risks that entails.

Not a good look, love.

Clymene · 06/12/2019 17:09

It really isn't is it? And it's really not a good look for an author to be slagging off another author so publicly either. I'm a bit embarrassed for her.

Clymene · 06/12/2019 17:14

Because of Clara, I've ordered more books. Thanks Clara!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/12/2019 17:26

You really like to occupy women's attention with pointless repetitive nonsense don't you? I feel like I've been roped into the "throw your sippy cup on the floor" game. But here, I'll answer your questions.

Can I gently point out that not answering the questions and therefore not getting drawn into the game is an option? When a person behaves the same way on every thread, and it's shutting down conversations and creating a lot of ill will, at a certain point it may be a good idea to just collectively decide not to engage.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/12/2019 17:27

Swerving the derail and getting back on topic, the book looks lovely but I don't have any children the right age to give it as a gift in my life at the moment, so I may look around to see if there's a playgroup or something similar that might be looking for donations.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/12/2019 17:58

Donating to a library is a good idea, I'm
Going through buy more for various places.

I love the drawings of dads baby carrying, and then the children doing the same!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/12/2019 18:04

If anyone can think of any other options in terms of places to donate to can they leave them here?

HorseWithNoYawnsToGive · 06/12/2019 18:14

Maybe you can make a request for your library to buy it and get it in. I know someone who has done this before with another book and they did!

I know someone this happened to: they wanted some book about pinnipeds, the library ordered it - bingo!

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/12/2019 18:19

Excellent idea!

Then people who don't want to buy the book can read it...

MrsFionaCharming · 06/12/2019 18:52

Vaguely on topic- I had a psychology lecture recently about attitudes towards pain. We discussed an interesting study about chronic pain conditions, I think arthritis specifically, in which 50% of the women involved were given regular manicures. Obviously that’s not a medical treatment, but at the end of the study, those who received them reported less pain and were taking fewer medications. It was believed that the act of loving and caring for the inflicted area helped to deal with the condition and reduce symptoms.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 06/12/2019 18:55

. It was believed that the act of loving and caring for the inflicted area helped to deal with the condition and reduce symptoms.

Excellent. I'll cancel my joint replacement surgery and stop taking my immunosuppressant injections and just have manicures instead.

MrsFionaCharming · 06/12/2019 19:01

I said that it’s not a medical treatment, and also said that it reduced symptoms, not cured the disease. But you misinterpret it however makes you feel better :)

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 06/12/2019 19:09

Because do you know how difficult it currently is for chronic pain patients to be taken seriously? Do you know how debilitating and disabling it is to live with chronic pain or joint disease so severe that in your 40s, or in my DDS case, early teens, you cannot even walk upstairs?

Drs are reluctant to prescribe pain killers for fear of people becoming addicted, but at the same time won't let people under 60 have joint replacement surgery unless exceptional circumstances. Go to a pain clinic and be advised to pace, use mindfulness. Try pacing at work. That goes down well.

Then along comes "research" like this. Oh have a manicure and reduce your pain med requirements so we don't need to give you opiates anymore. Of course you can go to work with bone on bone disease and no pain meds because you've had a manicure.

It's offensive to people with these diseases. Do you have chronic pain from arthritis?

Uncompromisingwoman · 06/12/2019 19:10

Excellent advice to us all from TheProdigalKittensReturn at 17.26.

Yes - I'm going to order several more as a direct result of Clara Vulliamy's bullying. And I'll put money on it she won't have read the book.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 06/12/2019 19:11

As this is FWR, isn't it interesting that your study (do you have a link btw) gave manicures to women, the group of people who already struggle to get conditions taken seriously.

Did they offer men manicures in place of analgesia or did they carry on getting the decent pain relief?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/12/2019 19:12

Why read a book when you can just decide it's evil in principle? Gosh, expecting people to make an effort, how un woke of you.

psed · 06/12/2019 19:13

My preschool would love a donation of this book if anyone is offering? We are severely underfunded and I’m making it my mission to replace a lot of our outdated books with more feminist ones.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 06/12/2019 19:16

I will read it when I can get a copy in the library.

I looked at transgender trend Twitter feed. Interestingly they are describing it as a body positive book for children designed to address gender and the current issues, so from what I can read they don't seem to be claiming that it's relating to disability or race, that seems to be coming from posters on this thread.

Snazzygoldfish · 06/12/2019 19:18

I haven't read the whole thread so apologies. I bought this book on a whim after reading the thread title. It arrived today and I can honestly say it's the most beautiful book we've got. My four year old loved it. The illustrations are gorgeous and the text is so positive. My little boy related to every picture on every page. The authors and illustrators clearly know and understand young children exceptionally well.

LangCleg · 06/12/2019 19:19

If anyone can think of any other options in terms of places to donate to can they leave them here?

Is there a young mothers support group near you? Or a family centre? Many food banks and community drop-ins are currently collecting stocking gifts for the children of their service users.