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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Body positive book for toddlers!

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WomanBornNotWorn · 26/11/2019 12:19

Great idea - helping small children

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Body positive book for toddlers!
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LangCleg · 07/12/2019 09:40

Janes not the wrong thing, or the wrong thread at all. This thread is about supporting a book that supports parents in a fight against a dangerous, extremist point of view that encourages children to disassociate from their body and reality.

That's' exactly what this thread is about. I'm so happy for the arrival of this book, because buying and distributing a few copies is an act of solidarity I can make. I spend a lot of time feeling helpless, so doing this assuages that somewhat.

LangCleg · 07/12/2019 09:41

Genderists: Oh, by the way, those adult males who identify as women, but say they don't need a medicalised path to identify as the other sex, well...ignore them, well don't, because they're also trans, but not trans like our children, but they are, but they're not quite like our kids, but they are, but they aren't.

Pom - this is so on point and genuinely terrifying.

Uncompromisingwoman · 07/12/2019 09:47

Agreed LangCleg
There is so little power that women have in the face of this onslaught on women's rights so to find this gentle book that is so positive towards children and their bodies is heartwarming.

I really hope that one day women like Clara Vulliamy will look back at their vicious bullying and threatening of other women for producing such a lovely book with a sense of shame.

RaininSummer · 07/12/2019 10:00

Looking forward to reading this with my granddaughter who at 4 1/2 has come home from school talking about being fat and then not eating properly . Not that any child should feel like this but she is a tiny scrap. It will also be great when she has to argue that she is female despite loving sharks, space and dinosaurs .

VMisaMarshmallow · 07/12/2019 10:23

My kids are too old to read this book, but I’m going to go buy a few to gift and donate to school. Attempted me railing has motivated me to do this.

As a teeny side note I always loved the pip and posey book about toileting, where pip has an accident and then after he clears up with posey he wears her dress while they continue to play. It has a nice mix of them both playing all types of toys and was a favourite of my kids while we were working on toileting.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 07/12/2019 10:50

VMisaMarshmallow

We clearly have similar conditions. I have hEDS with POTS and heart and gut complications thrown in for good measure.

Please tell me how you love your body. How? How do you not resent the struggle that it causes every second of every day?

I roll over in bed and dislocate my shoulder. I twist awkwardly or step off of a kerb at an odd angle and dislocate my knee. Stand up too quickly, have a bath that's too hot and faint.

What is there to love about the body that does that? Carry on with the "me railing" comments if it makes you feel better about yourself but I'm sick of attitudes in society that expect people with disabilities to put on a brave face in order to protect everyone else from the reality of living with disability. Maybe this book doesn't do that but I'm just going on what posters have described it as. I think it's wrong to tell people with disabilities to love their bodies unless you're also doing everything possible to alleviate the suffering that those disabilities cause (and that does not include getting a manicure FFS)

LangCleg · 07/12/2019 10:59

I really hope that one day women like Clara Vulliamy will look back at their vicious bullying and threatening of other women for producing such a lovely book with a sense of shame.

Me too. Imagine seeing this book and thinking only of yourself and your own interests. Vile.

LangCleg · 07/12/2019 11:00

Looking forward to reading this with my granddaughter who at 4 1/2 has come home from school talking about being fat and then not eating properly . Not that any child should feel like this but she is a tiny scrap. It will also be great when she has to argue that she is female despite loving sharks, space and dinosaurs

Give your granddaughter a big cuddle from me. And tell her I was utterly obsessed with dinosaurs when I was little!

LangCleg · 07/12/2019 11:03

If anyone else is looking for further places to donate to - your local council website will have a list of Sure Start and other children's centres.

ThreeLittleDuckies · 07/12/2019 11:09

It will also be great when she has to argue that she is female despite loving sharks, space and dinosaurs

I can relate, my daughter also loves dinosaurs.

@LangCleg A copy or two would also make fantastic presents for primary school teachers who might enjoy something for the class rather than joining the hundreds of mugs they've collected of the years. Grin

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 07/12/2019 11:11

It wasn't clear from the title that this book is aimed at children up to the age of 6, so My reception year DS will be getting a copy in his stocking

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/12/2019 11:14

I was obsessed with dinos too! My favourite book had pictures of all the different kinds. Not sure when this became a for boys thing but nope, sorry, they don't get to own all the fun stuff.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 07/12/2019 11:18

I don't get why dinosaurs are fun and luckily for all concerned, neither do my sons. I think we're missing the dino gene

VMisaMarshmallow · 07/12/2019 11:21

Hooves started your own thread about that exact subject and I’ll gladly answer there. I’m sure many other posters would have valuable contributions also.

WomanBornNotWorn · 07/12/2019 11:24

Hearhoovesthinkzebras

This was my post originally, so:

Just to clarify - the post was specifically to draw MNers' attention to a little book that's published by Transgender Trend specifically to counteract what's happening to children.

I hear and understand your point of view and can't begin to imagine what you must go through - and though this won't help, I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

The purpose of this thread is to give space to MNers who wish to share the book and its message.

There is still room to reassure children that their bodies as in their sex, skin colour, height etc are fine as they are, and that's what this thread will continue to do.

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VMisaMarshmallow · 07/12/2019 11:27

Special schools are another place to donate. My kids are too old for this book, even with their disabilities, but one is at a special school and she has peers who are emotionally younger and would benefit from this book. As there are a disproportionate amount of kids with asc identifying as trans it would suggest they are the most vulnerable to awa and trans ideology so a book like this for the littles or for older kids who are emotionally younger would be great. We’ve donated the Margot Sunderland books I mentioned to a different poster and a few others over the years and will be adding a few copies of this one this year. Special schools could benefit from a few copies, as they are more likely to get damaged there and because special schools tend to link up with other special schools in the area so can pass along.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 07/12/2019 11:29

I'm going to take a copy of the book into my kids old primary. I'm then going to leave one in the reading box at a cafe I know. Then i think i need to start having a chat with KS1 teacher friends. I think this book will be very useful when teaching the new curriculum.

I'm going to need more books.

ThreeLittleDuckies · 07/12/2019 11:30

@KatvonHostileExtremist What's in the new curriculum? Shock Please tell me that aren't replacing biology with ideology #ScienceMatters

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 07/12/2019 11:36

Op, I agree that yes assure children that their sex, skin colour, height etc is just fine. Absolutely.

I just don't agree with telling children that they have to love their bodies when they have often complex issues. I think to do so ignores the very difficult and conflicting emotions that living with disability can bring.

That feels more like adults trying to make themselves feel better by making children hide their true feelings then in actually trying to help children work through the emotions that living with disability brings.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 07/12/2019 11:40

Sorry to sound a bit dim - is it usual for people to donate books to schools and libraries? I'm just wondering if DS2's teacher will have this face Confused when I show up with a book?

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 07/12/2019 11:43

Sorry to sound a bit dim - is it usual for people to donate books to schools and libraries?

Yes. They don't always accept or loan them to pupils or the public, but donating books is not usual.

drspouse · 07/12/2019 11:43

I've given DD class other things in the past as in "I got this for us but it will be good for your class if you'd like it".
I will combine this with some skin coloured plasters.

Clymene · 07/12/2019 11:44

Bernard - DS won some books once in a competition and some were duplicates so we donated them to his school. They were very pleased. Just say that your friend wrote it or something if you want to appear less weird :D

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 07/12/2019 11:45

good tips - thanks all!

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 07/12/2019 11:46

ah, I might do it after christmas and say it was a duplicate gift.

genius!

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