The Guardian... Blind Date 23 November

[Backinthecloset123]

I post this aware that I might get a warning.

However!

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/nov/23/blind-date-jen-anna-glasses-fog-up

The woman, a lesbian, Anna (and the Guardian readership) did not reveal that Jen is a trans woman.

The whole thing is gaslighting.
And I may be deleted for that sentence.
There is a good thread on Twitter which I'll link.

The absolute single mindedness of some males to circumnavigate the rejection presented by lesbians

It’s so fucking obvious.

We don't know what the Lesbian thinks but we do know that the transwoman has started harrassing her on twitter.

That's very true. When I read it on Sat, I assumed that because both of them used the word "queer" both of them bought into the "lesbianism is same gender attracted" ideology. It's quite possible Anna is actually a woke young thing who is same "gender" attracted but just didn't fancy Jen, who is now smearing her as a bigot and villifying her in a nasty fit of incel rage.

It's quite possible Anna is actually a woke young thing who is same "gender" attracted but just didn't fancy Jen, who is now smearing her as a bigot and villifying her in a nasty fit of incel rage.

It might prove an interesting wake up call for her.

I wonder what the guardians legal advisors/insurance has to say about blind date? What safeguarding measures do they put in place to protect participants from stalking, public vilification etc?

Can I just say how funny it is that I only ever see what American TRAs refer to as "T&RF bangs" (aka a short blocky fringe) on transwomen?

There loads of blind date shows on TV, I don't think they are usually considered culpable for bad situations but if the Guardian has made two people expect different things then that is a different matter.

Once again, the least they can do is make their policy on these matters explicit.

Ok just seen Jen did not disclose being trans, however the guardian did meet them so would have known

It's possible to tell from the photo alone. I assume they apply with photo, so they knew.

^ I assume they apply with photo, so they knew.

To clarify: I assume they(the applicants) apply with photo, so they (the Guardian) knew.

They has so many applications these days!

I can't see Jen's tweets, anyone else?

Also don't most situations end without a second date? I don't recall the average straight male participant being so entitled as to simply assume that a second date was to be expected, or calling the other person a bigot if it didn't.

(The "yeah well your loss" blustering otoh is 100% typical huffy rejected male behavior.)

Emailing Janice Turner, Justin Webb and Woman's Hour with a link to this thread.

We don't know what the Lesbian thinks but we do know that the transwoman has started harrassing her on twitter.

In a timely/related note, this image has been officially deemed as acceptable by FB.

Channelling my inner CJ Cregg, am I outraged? I'm barely surprised. This is a movement where women aren't allowed to own their own sex*

(* westwing.fandom.com/wiki/Enemies_Foreign_and_Domestic)

I read that blind date and the comment ‘I’d like to see her glasses fog up again’ really Jarred.

There's something so lecherous about it, isn't there?

I wonder what choices Guardian soul mates offer regarding sex, gender etc

This is horrific. It's homophobic and it put a woman at risk.

And yes, the Guardian would know - this article explains how it all works:

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/31/10-years-of-blind-date-weddings-babies-lost-knickers

'But before anyone loses their underwear, lovers must be matched. Nina’s cupid powers come into play at the photoshoot, where participants are photographed before their night out. It’s a tightly run production line, as I found when I joined her last month. Daters are escorted from the Guardian’s reception to a small studio and given 15 to 20 minutes to make the magic happen. Nina attends all the shoots, asking questions as she watches, her mind a Rolodex of potential matches. “You’ll see for yourself,” she says, as we wait for the first person to arrive. “Sometimes, something just clicks. But yes, there’s also a spreadsheet.”'

Buzz, that image was deemed acceptable? How is that not hate speech? It is violent misogyny which seems to be currently not only acceptable. But fashionable. It’s bloody appalling

" It's quite possible Anna is actually a woke young thing who is same "gender" attracted but just didn't fancy Jen, who is now smearing her as a bigot and villifying her in a nasty fit of incel rage."

its important to respect her privacy and not speak for her

but questions need to be aimed at the Guardian about the policy and subsequent harrassment

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that whole twitter read is chilling

www.theguardian.com/info/2014/sep/12/-sp-how-to-make-a-complaint-about-guardian-or-observer-content

Bovary no idea how or why it is seen to be be ok. That was the report I got back after I reported it (in a matter of minutes, I might add), so its not just my cousin's dog's aunt's neighbour's hearsay. Yet women are routinely banned for saying things like "women don't have penises".

(And I saw it on a GC FB page so it wasn't just me reporting it either)

It's interesting that the Guardian has replied and said that Jen didn't disclose being trans. And signed off "Weekend" rather than an actual name. They are probably realising they are in murky territory over this one and hoping it blows over.

Also interesting that the whole story was leaked to Lara Adams-Miller. Otherwise it would never have come out at all.

That 'I'd like to make her glasses steam up again' is just crude male sexual innuendo. How horrible for Anna. 23 is still very young. I bet she sat in that restaurant in a panic, wondering how she was going to get out of the situation without losing her job and being plastered all over the internet as the terf who walked out of a blind date.

This was a hateful thing of the Guardian to do. I haven't bought it for years but still click on it occasionally. Now that's going to stop.

That's my point, Zanahoria. Anna could be same sex attracted, or could be same gender attracted. We don't know.

We also don't know whether the Guardian checked which of the two she was.

What we do know - from their own Twitter feed - is that Jen seems to be imputing the worst motives.