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Only consenting to receiving medical treatment from a female is not acceptable

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Siameasy · 23/11/2019 18:28

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One NHS trust says it’s unacceptable for women to say they only consent to medical treatment from “natal females”. I find this completely outrageous and couldn’t find a thread on it already. Bloody hell!

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Bunnyfuller · 02/12/2019 22:20

@Birdsfoottreefoil

What isn’t a woman?

SonEtLumiere · 02/12/2019 22:22

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DeeZastris · 02/12/2019 22:23

what isn’t a woman

Someone who has or had a penis 🤦‍♀️

littlbrowndog · 02/12/2019 22:24

A brick ?

Kantastic · 02/12/2019 22:24

Do you think I’m trans?!

I have no idea who you are other than what I know from your posts on the last few pages? If being called "they" offended you, I apologise, didn't expect you to mind.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/12/2019 22:24

Personally I think that if a giraffe identifies as a woman it is one and I'm very disappointed in all you nasty wimmin who'd claim otherwise.

littlbrowndog · 02/12/2019 22:25

A tree. So many possibilities of what isntba woman

Creepster · 02/12/2019 22:28

Bunny, you are entitled to act on your beliefs. You are not entitled to impose them on others.
As you say the NHS is doing so in some places right now, in violation of the EA2010. I suspect they have been the recipients of the fraudulent list of protected characteristics the transitioning advocates have circulated to get out in front of the law.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/12/2019 22:28

So happy to see this thread enter the Life of Brian stage of its lifecycle.

FlamingoAndJohn · 02/12/2019 22:30

I’m not removing anyone’s rights, but I’m not joining in a proposal to refuse to accept a trans female as a female.

This goes beyond the right to be treated by same sex.

I don’t want to remove anyone’s rights, but I do think their rights need removing?

Creepster · 02/12/2019 22:38

So as I understand you, Bunny, your position is the 8th rule of misogyny: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.

PurpleCrowbar · 02/12/2019 22:39

Kittens yep. Viva Loretta. Wink

Birdsfoottrefoil · 02/12/2019 23:16

Bunny

What isn’t a woman?

A transwoman

DeeZastris · 02/12/2019 23:24

If only bunny would come back and enlighten as to what actually is a woman.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/12/2019 23:34

I think it's a giraffe wearing a tutu.

(Nods seriously)

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/12/2019 23:36

(Definitely not a vicar)

Winesalot · 02/12/2019 23:41

I have been following this thread since the start and I want to point out that as a female, it is not just for intimate procedures that I want a female health professional.

I now know that for some medical appointments, it is less stressful for me to have a woman who may have some shared experience where they can relate to what I am talking about or needing. It has come from long experience of having my ‘women’s issues’ dismissed or misinterpreted.

Bunny, after being shamed too often by doctors who have never menstruated or had morning sickness and caused incredible pain during labour by a male registrar, I now value a female perspective for some medical appointments. Not often, but when I need to.

I think sensitivity goes both ways in life and more so in medical care. If you personally cannot understand why i make that choice when I need to, that is fine. As long as I continue to have a right to choose.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/12/2019 23:42

(I've also got a related Mansun song from the days when open discussion of fetishes was allowed stuck in my head now.)

Datun · 02/12/2019 23:45

Bunny, think about it, seriously. Do you think this person has become a women in the other photo?

At what point? How?

What are you actually basing it on? Think about it. Is it effort? Longevity? 'Passing'. Just really, really wanting it? What?

Then think about how you are viewing women as merely a service. For the validation of men - for whatever reason you come up with.

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LorettasBox · 02/12/2019 23:49

I think a sea lion isn't a woman, since we're doing the animal kingdom.

DeeZastris · 02/12/2019 23:50

I think a check list would be handy. Then we would all know if we are women or not.
Come on bunny - it wouldn’t take you long as you seem to be the expert on these matters.

OccasionalKite · 03/12/2019 01:57

A man is a man. Because of his physical sex.

A woman is a woman. Because of her physical sex.

People who seek to destroy women's boundaries are creepy, abusive bastards and they can fuck right off.

TinaBarrow · 03/12/2019 08:38

A pangolin: not a woman

Only consenting to receiving medical treatment from a female is not acceptable
Ereshkigal · 03/12/2019 08:45

In your scenario a mtf trans is trans only in their own mind, to you they’ll always been men.

Correct. Very perceptive of you.

LorettasBox · 03/12/2019 08:50

It's like Bunny keeps repeating the facts as though eventually someone is going to contradict them.

Like, yes. You are correct, a person of the male sex remains the male sex forever. What was your point?