Will this affect your vote?

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Several people have posted interesting threads about the response of political parties to questions about how/if they will safeguard sex segregated spaces. Some of the responses to that question explicitly demonstrate where politicians are aligned when it comes to protecting recalcitrant women against a concerted attempt to force ‘gender neutrality’ on the public. Some of those responses have been quite eye opening. My question is this. How influential will this be on your vote?

Have the libdems said anything about their bonkers statement from last week? No amount of back pedalling can save them but I’d be interested to see if they have.

Genuinely don’t know who to vote for. I had decided upon SNP (for the first time ever as don’t support Independence) but just discovered our SNP MP is very firmly and vocally a TRA.

Do you think that anyone reads or cares what you write?

In some Constituencies, candidates have to read spoiled ballots to agree they're spoiled. They may not care but they may well see.

Spoiled ballot for me here too.

Completely agree this isn't a single issue. This is THE issue.

I'm a floating voter. Libdems are off the cards now, Labour are no better and as much as I hate to say it, I was genuinely impressed with Liz Truss. I was very pleased to hear her talking about safeguarding children and women, that is very important to me. Whilst I appreciate that I should consider the wider picture, if we continue with a system that doesn't recognise sex, the impact will be wide reaching and have a knock on effect in all areas of life; that's why it is a key issue for me.

Really depends on the individual looking at them, @Blackopal. Those actually counting the votes just tend to plough through them, sorting them into piles at a breakneck pace. Howevever, each of them is being watched closely by the presiding officer, election agents, candidates and other interested people from all parties, and speaking for myself it certainly would have caught my interest and made me wonder what it meant.

In some Constituencies, candidates have to read spoiled ballots to agree they're spoiled. They may not care but they may well see

so we'll have a boris farage hard brexit screwing the nhs and immigrants but a few failed candidates just might have glimpsed your spoiled paper in among the spoiled papers. yup very good.

I should also add that as a candidate i was acutely aware that every spoiled ballot was someone I could have potentially won over given the right words/resources/time.

Actually @Helmetbymidnight in those circumstances all candidates in that constituency would be shown the spoiled ballots.

no it wont. there are several ways you can raise the issue but this isnt one of them
if youre fine with an emboldened farage/johnson far right/hostile environment/no deal brexit then spoil your vote
of perhaps wait and see whats on the manifestos even?

This wont change my mind. I am spoiling my vote. Brexit means nothing without women. It's one issue. Are you trying to change MPs minds like this? Are you trying to change MPs minds at all?
This is obviously a way to raise the issue. It's already been said on this thread that actual people read the spoiled votes to check they are indeed spoiled.
If enough people say the same phrase, use the same sticker whatever is decided, then people will definitely take notice.

Maybe the counters will see it and wonder, or already know and be empowered by other people saying the same thing

You clearly have never been a teller. I have. The tellers just want to get them counted. They don't have time to sit and read the scrawlings on the side and reflect on the philosophical position of the writer.

If the result is very close the spoiled papers will be looked at to be 100% sure they can't be interpreted as a vote for a candidate.

I do hope there are very few people like you Danger

Your protest makes no sense whatsoever.

Would it be worth sticking a sticker in the booth? Do they check if anything has been left there?

Nobody is trying to attract the attention of the teller anyway @CarolCutrere, at least not any more than getting it noticed as a spoilt ballot. -They're politically neutral.

Don't do that @happypunky - it's very illegal to do anything political (other than cast a vote or spoil a ballot) at a polling station.

I asked this on a previous thread and never got an answer so I'll try again.
Why do some posters have such a low opinion of women that you think we would spoil our votes without a lot of consideration?
Do you seriously think your little homilies are telling us anything we haven't already thought of?

If I do end up spoiling my vote, I'll have researched and agonised over it more than all the votes I've cast in the last 40-odd years put together. The only thing your lectures achieve is to make me wonder why the centre/left enjoys telling off women so much.

What @Floisme said. 👍

I do hope there are very few people like youDanger

Your protest makes no sense whatsoever
I tell you what, you do you, and I will do me. And if I choose to spoil my vote, well that's on me.

Yes. I've been surprised to see the posts on this thread telling people their thinking is wrong and what they need to do instead.

No doubt some of them would also tell us we're womaning wrong too @nauticant.

Ruffalo a poster said

Maybe the counters will see it and wonder, or already know and be empowered by other people saying the same thing.

So at least one poster (very mistakenly) thinks the tellers will notice.

Thanks @rufflecrow it just crossed my mind but I won't. I've got to vote lib dem because they're more likely to take the seat from the tory but I really don't want to. I'd prefer to spoil it.

Also want to vote Lib Dem but can't.

Late to this but I’m another former Labour voter. I was intending to vote Lib Dem (many former labour moderates I know are) but not sure I can bring myself to given their stance on women. I have no idea who to vote for and it makes me sad.

So at least one poster (very mistakenly) thinks the tellers will notice.

Out of every teller, at every polling station throughout the country, how can you be so sure some won’t?

Out of every teller, at every polling station throughout the country, how can you be so sure some won’t? confused

I've been a teller and a supervisor of tellers. The tellers are there to count the votes and put the counted votes in the pile for each candidate. They don't have the time, nor is it in their remit, to read the philosophical ponderings of disgruntled / confused voters.

RuffleCrow
No doubt some of them would also tell us we're womaning wrong too @nauticant**

Nobody is telling you you are "womaning wrong". Do you have any idea how petulant that comment sounds?