@Winesalot
I wrote this in answer to a poster who insists that mtf transitioners will never dominate women's sport. I think they meant in numbers ... which is still debatable.
If a girl or woman dies because of another Fallon Fox.... it’s ok. There is only a few so it won’t matter.
If another girl counting on a scholarship to get into university or college loses to a male..... it’s ok... there is not many so be nice. It makes no difference really.
If a GB cycling female loses the spot she was likely to have won for the Olympics because a male champion has transitioned.... it ok... it is only a few. It doesn’t matter over all because transwomen will never dominate women’s sport.
If a rugby player who has broken a coaches foot and is known to ‘fold women opponents like a deck chair’ one day does an illegal tackle and severely harms someone... it’s ok... it is inclusive to include males when they want to play against women despite all the science saying it is negligent to allow it knowing the prevalence of significant brain injury due to female physiology..... transwomen will never dominate women’s sport and there is only a few ...
If a female Kent cricketer has agains missed out on woman player of the season or even a spot on the side because a male uses their superior training, past opportunities and physiology to again smash women’s records using a male size bat against slower bowlers, lighter equipment etc. and while that male continues to perform as a medicocre male on the men’s team they also play in..... it’s ok, it is only a few and they will never dominate women’s sport
So, women are denying access because they have 'an axe to grind' eh?
None of these scenarios are far fetched. Most have occurred or in the case of GB cycling, are likely to occur. Please tell us if any of these fit your definition of fairness or of safety. The other poster I posted in answer to certainly wouldn't answer at all.
It only takes a one or two in each sport or sporting club and the domination starts. At all levels. People who deny this, ultimately either hate women (or believe they are being kind but the result is still the same), or don't give a toss about women's sports..... or both.
And I’ll add an old post of mine which is similar:
When two athletes were allowed to compete in Connecticut high school athletics, Selina Soule and every other girl whose place was lowered by one or two in every competition these athletes took part were disadvantaged. Same with CeCe Telfer.
Aussie rules has 18 players on each side. When Hannah Mouncey was allowed to play in the lower leagues, one of Mouncey’s teammates sat on the bench each game. Maybe another didn’t make the squad because their place on the bench was taken. All of Mouncey’s teammates were disadvantaged by having to share changing facilities. All of Mouncey’s opponents were disadvantaged by having to tackle Mouncey. Then multiply that by how many teams are in that league. Then add the umpires who were placed in a compromising legal position should any serious injury had happened to a woman. This is hundreds of women.
When Mouncey switched to handball, a woman didn’t get selected to represent Australia at the world championships because Mouncey was in the squad. A woman who made the squad didn’t get to start in the final. All of these women were disadvantaged by having to share changing facilities with Mouncey, something they complained about.
When McKinnon won at the Masters cycling championships, every woman below had their place moved down by one.
When Laurel Hubbard won weightlifting gold in Samoa, Feagaiga Stowers, an 18 year old indigenous Samoan woman, a survivor of abuse, was denied gold at her home games. Every other woman who finished below Hubbard had their place lowered by one. The New Zealand team took 8 weightlifters to those games, 4 men and 4 women. Hubbard was counted as one of the latter. Which meant there was a woman left home back in NZ who didn’t get the chance to compete at the Pacific games. Weightlifters have to compete at a number of certain events to qualify for the Olympics.
When Maxine Blythin won Kent Women’s cricketer of the year, a woman didn’t. When Blythin plays on the women’s team, either local or county, a woman is relegated to 12th woman. When Blythin smashes a smaller, lighter ball over a closer boundary rope, the women who are bowling to Blythin have their bowling averages increased. This is scores of women.
And so on, and so on. Hundreds of women and girls affected negatively already by just a handful of examples of transgender athletes. It doesn’t need to get any bigger, it’s already too big.