Yoga with Adriene - Redo of PMS Video

[ThePawtriarchy]

I’ve just seen the message in my inbox from Yoga with Adriene saying that she’s done a redo of her really popular ‘Yoga for Cramps and PMS for Women’ video to remove the reference to ‘Hey Ladies’ etc and make it all gender neutral, to be inclusive.

I actually just feel really sad now. I feel excluded as a woman, there’s nowhere that’s safe where I don’t have to consider men first.

I have to say, in this instance I can understand why Tequila's annoyed. Lecturing someone about acceptance when they're describing their disability sounds unbelievably tone deaf and arrogant, no matter how well meaning.*

No lecturing here, but it's what yoga is about, and you must have missed me explaining I had multiple disabilities that have completely changed my life and the way I can live, including having to give up what I'd dedicated my lief to (dance).

Acceptance is a big thing in healing and getting the most from yoga, not just the body, but the mind as one.

Surely at some point on the yoga journey there must be acceptance that others feel differently to you.

As an aside the memememe part of pp sounds a bit belittling and not very yogic.

If you're doing your best to change your situation, and with your other comments, you actually DO want more out of your body. You've said as much before.

Yes I am trying to change my body, hence why I refuse to accept it.

I don't get this constant badgering. Good for you, you accepted your body. Great. I'm pleased for you.

I don't want to accept mine. I will not accept that this is my life. I will not accept that this is how my body is meant to be. I will do all that I can to change it. That is my right.

I am not going to feel at peace with it so I ask that you please stop telling me to do proper yoga to learn to accept, how great it is to accept etc etc.

I don't want to. How would you feel if I posted repeatedly to tell you that you are wrong for accepting your body, that you've just given up and that you must refuse to accept it. Over and over again?

If you're happy with where you are then great. Why the need to continuously badger me to be like you? I dont want it.

posters are wishing that for me blah blah blah.

What kind of monster wouldn't wish the acceptance of the body on every human being they come into contact with?

Nobody would wish an unending hatred of their body on anyone. I've been there, it's not a good space to be in.

Apologies, but her videos are excluding a lot of the time.

She does yoga for gardeners, for nurses, for runners.
I am none of those things, but don't find myself so offended or excluded when she addresses them as such. I've done some of the videos when I need to relax at home (the nurses one) and never felt excluded by her talking to them as such, so we arrive back at the point that it is only the word woman that is the problem.......

What kind of monster wouldn't wish the acceptance of the body on every human being they come into contact with?

The kind of person who is doing it repeatedly despite the recipient saying they don't want it, please stop.

You are trying to force your "religion" onto someone who doesn't want it.

You don't know what is best for me, what is a blessing for me.

I do not want to accept my body, nor to find peace with it because that means giving up. That means accepting my life as it is now. That, for me, is not a blessing.

If it is for you, then that is great. I'm glad you are at peace with your body.

That is not what I want for me. Why do you persist in this?

I am none of those things, but don't find myself so offended or excluded when she addresses them as such. I've done some of the videos when I need to relax at home (the nurses one) and never felt excluded by her talking to them as such, so we arrive back at the point that it is only the word woman that is the problem.......

Oh give over. Maybe you need to do a bit more work on "acceptance". Don't think you're quite there yet.

*Yes I am trying to change my body, hence why I refuse to accept it.

I don't get this constant badgering. Good for you, you accepted your body. Great. I'm pleased for you.

I don't want to accept mine. I will not accept that this is my life. I will not accept that this is how my body is meant to be. I will do all that I can to change it. That is my right.

I am not going to feel at peace with it so I ask that you please stop telling me to do proper yoga to learn to accept, how great it is to accept etc etc.

I don't want to. How would you feel if I posted repeatedly to tell you that you are wrong for accepting your body, that you've just given up and that you must refuse to accept it. Over and over again?

If you're happy with where you are then great. Why the need to continuously badger me to be like you? I dont want it.*

No badgering, you're just illustrating an internal conflict you're battling.

You said you don't want more out of your body, which is conflicting with you saying you want to change your body.

I am speaking to you, not badgering. Honestly, you sound exactly what I was like. I was denying ever accepting my useless body for what it was. It was a struggle I wouldn't wish on anyone.

It's not wrong to wish that for someone, it's a kindness. To hate the body you are in means such a conflict that means the most cannot be gotten out of said body.When we accept that, it opens so many doors to us that we was blocked from seeing in the haze of our hatred of the body we're in. It completely changed my life and my perspective on my disability and allowed me to do so much more without lugging around that hatred.

It's not offensive to hope someone on their yoga journey finds that, because that's what yoga is all about. It's like saying namaste, it's only meaning the best. Of course I hope that for you, only a monster would hope you carry on living in a self loathing state. Having been there, I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and always hope that everyone would find it.

So I wish you a good day and hope your journey towards a better place, as I do everyone.

Oh give over. Maybe you need to do a bit more work on "acceptance". Don't think you're quite there yet.

Why do you believe that, as I said, I do not feel excluded when she addresses anyone else.

It's not wrong to wish that for someone,

Yes it is, when they keep saying that they don't want it.

Honestly, if I were you I would ask your yoga instructor for a refund. You need to work much harder on acceptance - learning to accept that not everyone is you, that people have different opinions to you and that your way of doing things is not the only "right" way.

Why do you believe that, as I said, I do not feel excluded when she addresses anyone else.

Because not everyone is you and some people feel differently to you. That's what you need to learn to accept.

You've gone on and on about what worked for you and how much better your life is. Great. Good for you. That means that you know about you, and your body and your disability.

It does not mean that you have become the font of all knowledge about everyone else's body or disability.

I think you're wrong. I think in accepting that you've taken the easy way out. It's too difficult for you to continue the fight and do you've taken the easier path and accepted where you are. I wish for you that you find the fire within yourself to start the fight again, to be able to push forward and not remain where you are now.

Have a good day.

I too wondered why we needed the email but if she's been being hounded for years by TRAs I can understand why she wanted to let everyone know so they might back the fuck off.

We know how persistent they can be.

No, it's not wrong to hope that someone stops hating their body so much they argue like this about hating their body. There's clearly a lot of hurt, that responds well to healing and acceptance. To always be fighting against a body, it doesn't work.

There's hurt there, and nobody would wish that on anyone.

I know those feelings well, I know it doesn't do anyone the ultimate of good to ever hate their body in the long run.

I don't need a refund, I hope you have a good day and life.

What's wrong is persistently ramming that down the throat of someone who has said please stop, I don't want this.

That's what's wrong. Hope away if you like, to yourself. Stop forcing yourself onto me.

Again, I hope that you find the strength to fight and not surrender as you have done.

you must have missed me explaining I had multiple disabilities that have completely changed my life and the way I can live, including having to give up what I'd dedicated my lief to (dance).

My apologies for missing that and I'm very sorry to hear it. Disability and poor health are fuckers. It must be very hard.

I think though that you (generic you) have to let people find their own path. I don't want to put words in anyone else's mouth but from where I'm sitting, Tequila has repeatedly told you that she has her own way of dealing with her situation and does not want your advice. She has asked you to stop.

correctiion: if these people continue their yoga journey with...

Hmmm. Mass deletions. Who'd a thunk it!

Yes, it's almost as if when you say something wildly offensive it gets deleted. Shocking.

Again, I hope that you find the strength to fight and not surrender as you have done.

I get you're hurting and in pain, but this is incredibly rude.

I haven't surrendered, as you would ave read in my posts, and I have fought my disabilities, acceptance doesn't mean a surrender.

This is incredibly rude towards someone with a disability, it does show a lack of understanding deep down though and comes from a place of hurt and hate, which is fine and understandable. It only highlights how you completely misunderstand what i and others have been saying about acceptance, it's in no way surrendering, but can be misunderstood as such,

Believe me, I haven't quit or surrendered, and I have strength enough. I've gone from being absolutely housebound to functioning very well.

As I said, this sentence highlights your complete misunderstanding of everything being expressed, perhaps ask your yogi about it, because they clearly have no understanding of yoga if they haven't even mentioned anything like it.

*My apologies for missing that and I'm very sorry to hear it. Disability and poor health are fuckers. It must be very hard.

I think though that you (generic you) have to let people find their own path. I don't want to put words in anyone else's mouth but from where I'm sitting, Tequila has repeatedly told you that she has her own way of dealing with her situation and does not want your advice. She has asked you to stop.*

Yes, I have so many things, basically at it's core, none of the functions of my body works how they should which effects every function I do, things you wouldn't imagine is even connected. It's a multi system thing and complicated.

that's fine. I'm explaining about myself, and in that, I cannot hope someone keeps on hating their body, as really, it doesn't help anyone, especially with a disability, it only makes things harder as you're literally battling yourself, and it's a key aspect of yoga, to accept your body as yours and what it is, and within that you find your capabilities.

If you read my posts, they haven't been insulting (however you may find the latest one towards me is the opposite). But it's something not only yogi's will advise, but pretty much everyone in a healthcare service.

My learning has taught me to listen to my body and only do what benefits it and leave behind that which doesn't, and in that I have realised this conversation is doing me no good, especially to the point in which I have been told I should fight and not surrender as I have done (mistake).

So I will leave this thread here and not continue any further, this will be to the benefit of my health, that which doesn't serve me I shall throw away. It's a shame as I feel strongly about the YWA comments, but this is not serving me anymore.

womenspeakout

Do you know what is incredibly rude - continually ramming your judgements down somebody else's throat when they gave repeatedly asked you to stop.

Do you always trample over people's boundaries and refuse to respect their request for you to stop?

You do not know it all. Maybe speak to your yogi about respecting boundaries, respecting someone else's journey, respecting the right for someone to make their own decisions?

Stop lecturing me as though you know me or anything about me.

You are rude, disrespectful and harrassing me.

If yoga makes people like you and lamahaha then I want nothing to do with it.

If you read my posts, they haven't been insulting (however you may find the latest one towards me is the opposite). But it's something not only yogi's will advise, but pretty much everyone in a healthcare service.

Isn't it funny how you find it insulting to have your posts to me reflected back at you? Funny how it's not at all insulting for you to repeatedly post patronising "I know better. If only you would do x,y and z as I have done your life would be so much better" bilge at me isn't it?

You need to learn some insight and to know that you are the expert on your own body and disability, no one else's and you most certainly do not have the right to an opinion on my body nor what I do with it.