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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

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Whatisthisfuckery · 25/09/2019 20:46

I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

twitter.com/hubblevicky/status/1176758148721512448?s=21

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/10/2019 15:13

If someone had presented sex to 13 year me as being all about fisting and eating shit it would certainly have inspired me to consider celibacy, but I can't help but feel that there may be less nauseating ways of lowering teen pregnancy rates, especially if you'd like the young people in question to have happy and healthy sex lives when they're older.

Antibles · 10/10/2019 16:28

Maybe they can rename it "Stop Respecting Yourself So Much, It Makes You Hard To Talk Into Anal And Shit Eating Grin

Relieved to see the site is under review (let's hope not just for Kittens' title change). They should send it here to FWR for a rigorous re-write.

I'm not actually surprised if the teen pregnancy rate is dropping given the programming males are being given by porn to jizz pretty much anywhere except in a boring old vagina.

MrGsFancyNewVagina · 10/10/2019 16:43

If schools had shown that to me as a 13yr old, I would have been devastated, as I was going through a childhood of sexual abuse. Imagine being abused and having your teacher telling you that fisting, eating shit, etc, is healthy sex. Talk about fucking up a child’s mind.

OhHolyJesus · 10/10/2019 21:45

The only history of Johnny has been from here, he appears pretty invisible online aside from the obvious social media.

I've seen some articles referring to people who worked or supported this programme in schools but not much on him.

It's very suspicious. How can we find out more about him?

Birdsfoottrefoil · 10/10/2019 22:48

Could he have done that thing where you get deleted from the internet? If so why? (I can think of some ‘why’s)

Birdsfoottrefoil · 10/10/2019 22:49

You used to be able to go to the library and look up back copies of newspapers on an index. Worrying that these things no longer exist.

SunsetBeetch · 11/10/2019 07:34

Fury as health chiefs hand out ‘sex cards’ to kids young as 13 – giving free access to condoms and lube"

www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/9906134/fury-as-health-chiefs-hand-out-sex-cards-to-kids-young-as-13/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 11/10/2019 08:02

I think the reason he's invisible is he's a nobody. an enterprising council employee who set him self up as a sex education expert and used his contacts to land a contract with Warwickshire

HivesMind · 11/10/2019 08:09

Oh my god. I'd be gutted if my child was directed to this.

AncientLights · 11/10/2019 08:21

Usually people are proud of their qualifications as they've often worked bloody hard to get them. Or if not actually proud, happy for them to be known. So if I can't find anything about someone I'm liable to become suspicious. I have no idea what kind of background someone should realistically have if they work in this area: teaching experience, psychology, school nursing, youth work - what? Anyone know?

In short, what qualifications and background is it reasonable to expect from Jonny and his ilk?

HandsOffMyRights · 11/10/2019 08:24

An important quote from that news story

Health authorities seem to have forgotten it’s against the law for children to have underage sex.”

OrchidInTheSun · 11/10/2019 08:59

You would think to have credibility as a consultant, you need to have an academic and professional track record. I'm freelance and I know that when I talk to new clients, the first thing they do is check my Linked In profile. It's very odd that he doesn't have one.

AncientLights · 11/10/2019 09:45

Quite Orchid. It's probably a bit late for me to go a-digging as all info will have been pulled/protected but I'll give it a go.

Our first question as parents, grandparents etc to school heads who allow these 'consultants' in should be 'what are their qualifications for this role?' And then keep pushing. If we don't look after our children, who will?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 11/10/2019 09:55

Maybe the council/s think that anyone in their 20s will do in terms of producing material aimed at teens and that's all the qualification they need.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 11/10/2019 10:15

as far as i can see, he basically worked exclusively for warwickshire, hence no need to tout via linked in

however our friend Etty Martin who commissioned him needs to be thinking very carefully about why. someone whose sole qualification seems to be that he likes talking to children about sex is not necessarily the best candidate

while what Jonny produced was offensive, sexist, gaslighty crap, the main issue is with the people who paid him to do it

there are always weirdos who want to produce rubbish. people who have responsibility for public money should be capable enough to know how to avoid giving public money to those weirdos.

AncientLights · 11/10/2019 10:35

And it's astonishing how often those people in authority need it dinning into their heads that our children need protecting from weirdos and you don't take people at face value when they want access to kids. Savile taught them nothing.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 11/10/2019 10:38

however our friend Etty Martin who commissioned him needs to be thinking very carefully about why. someone whose sole qualification seems to be that he likes talking to children about sex is notnecessarilythe best candidate

I know. I mean...dur guys - that's like 'Safeguarding for Dummies' right?

Birdsfoottrefoil · 11/10/2019 11:17

Does anyone have a link to a good “safeguarding for dummies” guide? I am thinking it might be useful to have one to hand.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 11/10/2019 12:29

Would it just say, 'Yes, some people are pedos. Get over it'?

Birdsfoottrefoil · 11/10/2019 16:08

BlackAgain and don’t forget ‘Men will always rape women so no point trying to avoid it’

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 12/10/2019 20:46

Yes, 'safeguarding love? Don't be stupid, nowhere's safe!'

BarbaraStrozzi · 13/10/2019 08:12

Article in today's Times (sorry, no link- on phone) saying Warwickshire have pulled this guide (together with details of some of the stuff described including "bagpiping - something questionable to do with armpits). Leads to the following comment BTL Grin:

"She said it had helped halve the teenage pregnancy rate in Warwickshire," Hardly surprising if they are all doing the armpit thing instead.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 13/10/2019 08:20

i think this is the article

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/council-suspends-explicit-teen-sex-guide-9p3xbkw3j

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as for this

She said it had helped halve the teenage pregnancy rate in Warwickshire

as discussed upthread, the teenage pregnancy rate across the country dropped by 48% over the period the chief exec has previously referenced, while only dropping by 43% in warwickshire

so it would be possible to argue that this programme was in fact counter productive

and no mention of the 500% increase in sexual attacks on children by children in warwickshire while the programme was running I note

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