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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

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Whatisthisfuckery · 25/09/2019 20:46

I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

twitter.com/hubblevicky/status/1176758148721512448?s=21

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Newuser123123 · 02/10/2019 16:49

Hi, I've just joined to post this. I'm in Warwickshire and today have emailed the portfolio holder for children's services, the children's safeguarding board and the communications team. I also copied in our local MP who is generally pretty good. I will let you know if /when I get a response. If not I have some other ideas how to escalate.
Thanks

MsTSwift · 02/10/2019 16:50

Good work!

Birdsfoottrefoil · 02/10/2019 17:00

Well done Newuser!

HandsOffMyRights · 02/10/2019 17:05

Good work!
What about local media?

HandsOffMyRights · 02/10/2019 17:07

Newuser can you get any parent power on this. A petition?

truthisarevolutionaryact · 02/10/2019 17:11

Well done Newuser. The LA really needs to explain why it is appropriate for these extreme sexual practices to be sold to children by the Warwickshire (and to clarify their safeguarding thinking about this).

Newuser123123 · 02/10/2019 17:16

Hi, thanks, yes that's my next stage of escalation. My judgement at the moment is that they're more likely to make changes if I treat it as an issue of insufficient checks during the commissioning process.
If this falls on deaf ears we have a strong social media mums group which I will take it to. But at first I want to give them an easy, practical solution to remove it as a commissioning issue.
One issue though, I can't access the site from my android phone so I'm not sure if it's working properly? I sent the link to the twitter thread in my email.
Thanks

HandsOffMyRights · 02/10/2019 17:21

The Respect Yourself programme received significant funding with the aim of reducing STIs and pregnancies in teens.
They need to be challenged on this too as there are some stats upthread re those targets.

Jonny is also aiming to convert more at a couple of events soon. An opportunity to question this grooming programme. Warwks CC 'Respect Safeguarding."

HandsOffMyRights · 02/10/2019 17:28

From the Rugby Advertiser

Tuesday 28 June 2011
A CONTINGENCY from Warwickshire will be visiting the Netherlands in October to find out why Dutch teenage pregnancy rates are five times lower than the UK’s.

The EU Leonardo Da Vinci Programme has awarded the Respect Yourself Campaign €40k to develop a project to improve sexual health of young people and teenage pregnancy rates in the county. The project will involve professionals from health, education, the voluntary sector, leisure services, family and parenting support, and other support services working with young people, all take a consistent approach.

Respect Yourself campaign manager Amy Danahay said: “Warwickshire will be using this funding to address the factors deemed to ‘make a difference’ to improving the sexual health of young people and reduce the teenage pregnancy rates which will inform our future aims.

“We believe we can achieve these aims by focusing our project proposals on future training for professionals working with young people. Whilst we could not involve parents and teenagers at this stage, we hope as the relationship between Rutgers and Respect Yourself develops that there will be more opportunities in the future.

Warwickshire County Councillor Heather Timms, cabinet member for children and young people’s services added: “At a time where service resources are shrinking, this funding and the experience it offers to members of the sexual health workforce is much welcomed news.

“It is sad and well documented fact that teenage pregnancy and STI rates in the UK are too high and we could do well to learn from the practice of our Dutch counterparts. This project is a first for Warwickshire and for local authorities nationwide so the future scope for sharing our learning will be broad.”

FannyCann · 02/10/2019 17:29

with the aim of reducing STIs and pregnancies in teens.

Does it actually cover safe sex anywhere?
Most of it seems to be very unsafe sex which would likely lead to an increase in STIs and other injuries.

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/10/2019 19:39

Sadly I think the anal sex section is about reducing pregnancy.

7Days · 02/10/2019 19:51

I dunno. I just think it's very sad that there is a contingent of teens so jaded by sex that this kind of thing is on their radar.
This type of stuff used to be marketed to middle aged couples to spice up a long marriage - not kids who you would expect to be thrilled and excited by explorations into snogging and fumbling.

It's just sad. A lot has been lost.

Antibles · 02/10/2019 20:06

Oh dear mummy. Yes the irony is that a lot of these inventive ways of jizzing on a woman might be reducing the the teenage pregnancy rate. Confused

I couldn't help myself, I went back to that site: 'Rodeo'. Grim.

The site judges it thus: "Sounds really funny when you’re laughing amongst your mates, however in reality how vulnerable do you think the girl in that situation would feel? Not believable that many guys would stoop this low in reality for a cheap laugh."

It's not funny or stooping low though, is it? It's rape. And she wouldn't feel vulnerable, she'd be utterly traumatised. A total fail by the site not to instantly define it as rape and inform young people that it would be a police matter.

ChipOnMyOvary · 02/10/2019 20:36

Antibles I managed to miss the definition of "Rodeo". Must be appalling if it constitutes rape.

7days ...marketed to middle aged couples...

You have got to be kidding me: bu*ake, st play, elching etc?

I did not know some of those words, or the existence of the activities they described. Are you seriously suggesting middle aged couples do these thing? I'd rather get a divorce tbh.

I am so concerned about my 3 teenage daughters and my son, who is 14. How can I possibly speak to him in such a way as to stop him becoming a porn adled adult with erectile disfunction, and in turn protect girls like my daughters? It's a tragedy for this generation.

I agree they are promoting non-vaginal sex as a strange way of preventing pregnancy. Is this what the Dutch do? Does anyone think this has anything to do with TWAW? After all, if men just want anal sex, it's easier to be a pretend woman isn't it. You wouldn't need bottom surgery. And if the man is used to bu**ake he will more easily see the presence of other penises in his sexual activities as being not offputting, but normal.

littlbrowndog · 02/10/2019 20:50

I don’t think all this disgusting stuff is on any teens radar

They want romance and love they hope

This is written by som3 porn addled adults who haven’t a clue on 13 year old girls and what teen girls and boys are looking for

It’s so fucking creepy

7Days · 02/10/2019 21:18

Chip well, I suppose not those exact practises.... but the whole spice up your marriage thing , getting the spark back...

Teens are experiencing this for the first time and they'll learn together. They dont need step by step instructions, do they. It's all good. Step by step.(Usual caveats apply).

It's supposed to be a sexual awakening not a sexual fog horn with blinding lights and thumps.

Antibles · 02/10/2019 21:29

Fantastic newuser Star

chip well I've been 'inspired' by this thread to have another quite detailed conversation with my older teens. While I can't stem the tide of peer pressure I have managed to get my two pennyworths in and only got a bit ranty. As they are pretty gender critical I feel there is hope on this issue too. Sometimes all it takes is knowing even one other person feels uncomfortable about something to make all the difference.

Ifonlyus · 03/10/2019 12:37

I dunno. I just think it's very sad that there is a contingent of teens so jaded by sex that this kind of thing is on their radar.
This type of stuff used to be marketed to middle aged couples to spice up a long marriage - not kids who you would expect to be thrilled and excited by explorations into snogging and fumbling

Great point. Absolutely. The people behind this don't know young people at all. Yes, there are systemaric reviews about SRE which shows some young people have asked for more detail about sex and how to do it but this does not in any way equate to them asking or expecting to be given graphic depictions of hard-core pornographic acts. Only a porn-sick individual or group would think in tat way. These depictions of abusive acts are more likely to put people off sex. My 14cyear old would be horrified and I imagine many girls and boys in the intended age bracket would feel the same way. They obviously did not consult any teachers, social workers, psychologists, health professionals or parents nor any actual teenagers.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 03/10/2019 20:50

I haven't read the whole guide and glossary of terms, but I was concerned that I never read anything about condoms in any of it.

In fact, felching (boak) obviously requires not using one... that would have been a very sensible time to mention them.

I half expected it to say sucking it out might reduce the risk of pregnancy.

I'd have been terrified to learn about these practices as an early teen.

Lordamighty · 03/10/2019 21:06

Sadly I think the anal sex section is about reducing pregnancy

I feel like a naive idiot after reading the above comment, of course that is what this is about. Well done to Mummyoflittledragon you have been able to see the true objective here.

TruthOnTrial · 04/10/2019 12:18

I just posted the following on the toilet resisten

The fetish objects are not articles of clothing used in cross-dressing

That was an interesting statement in a linked article,
www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201403/unacknowledged-harm-masturbation

Discussed in terms of being a male disorder/s

Pedophilia – Sexual activity with a prepubescent child
Exhibitionism – Exposure of one’s genitals to an unsuspecting stranger
Frotteurism – Touching and rubbing against a nonconsenting person
Transvestic fetishism - Sexual arousal to cross-dressing
Coprophilia – Sexual excitement by being smeared with and/or ingesting feces
Necrophilia – Sexual excitement via sexual interaction with a corpse
Klismaphilia – Sexual excitement by being given an enema
Asphyxiophilia – Sexual excitement by self-strangulation

I have seen posters on MN make mentions of being able to touch women when they don't realise, in a gloaty way. These were also during threads where women were repeatedly stating the need for women only spaces.

I was shock and hmm at hearing it, and did think it pretty rapey speech, but hadn't realised it's actually a male paraphelia disorder.

It also makes reference to the sources of these fetishes as harmful childhoods. Damaged individuals who, as part of the disorder, are extremely adept at keeping their paraphelias covert, often with noone else in their life knowing about them.

Stands to reason there will be more of them than acknowledged numbers that have sought help, as help being rarely sort is part of the disorder also.

GillyWeasel · 04/10/2019 16:20

Newuser, I don’t live in Warwickshire but have a child a Warkwickshire school. I have emailed head teacher today to express my concern and to ask them to explain if they use this disturbing content within the school. Who else can i contact?

OhHolyJesus · 04/10/2019 17:06

@GillyWeasel write to your MP and the MP for the area of the school. Contact the LEA and the Safeguarding officers in the councils.

Shout loud and don't take silence for an answer.

GillyWeasel · 04/10/2019 17:42

Thanks, holy Jesus, will get onto it.
Also noticed in the respect yourself ‘sextionary’
Under T, yes you guessed it, transgender definition links directly - for more information - to Gendered Intelligence. Their guidance then telling schools that ‘trans’ children should use bathroom/changing room facilities where they feel most comfortable Angry

Newuser123123 · 04/10/2019 18:49

Hi, I'd go to the local authority. I have emailed the portfolio holder for children's services, the children's safeguarding board and the communications team. I haven't heard anything back yet but they have a certain number of days to respond.
Let me know how you get on x