Owl Fisher in the Guardian

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When feminism supports trans rights, everybody wins – just like in Iceland

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/09/feminism-trans-rights-iceland-uk-movements?

From the article: "Transphobia [...] is deeply rooted in outdated gender norms and misogyny. "

I don't get how transphobia can be rooted in misogyny. Could someone explain this to me?

I see poor wee Fionne is getting a bit of a bashing on twitter (if anyone follows him, maybe say ‘hi’).

They are all like this. It's the ongoing bewilderment from a narcissistic mindset that women keep on not doing what they're told and just existing only in relation to/as props for men with no independent needs or lives or anything like that.

There's a complete inability to comprehend life from women's perspectives, to value women as people, or to listen or engage with life from any perspective other than their own. Hence the flailing around trying to find some deep underlying evil like right wing extremism driving them. Women are Mum. They should just do what makes you happy. What's the matter with them that they won't??

This is a great summary.

That footage of Fox and Owl in Totnes chanting 'transwoman are women, transmen are men' literally like a cult, was hilarious! I can't find it now though.

A used tea bag is more interesting...

I believe they speak very highly of you, Fekko...

(I agree with you)

Propertyofhood

That footage of Fox and Owl in Totnes chanting 'transwoman are women, transmen are men' literally like a cult, was hilarious! I can't find it now though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p06p3dmg/generation-activism-series-1-4-transgender-rights

Voila! I think they've cut it down into a shorter film but there's a bit of the cult chanting at the beginning and a bit about 3.40 mins in. The lacklustre "non binary is valid" and then some saddo says "yeah!".

But that’s actually true of the whole transactivist movement. It’s all Kevin the Teenager given ludicrous, terrifying amounts of power and gone horribly, horribly wrong.

Great description

and suggested their interest lay in handicraft (can't remember whether it was pottery, carpentry or something).

It was screenprinting. I posted a link to a shorter version of the video.

Why is this heterosexual couple being given such mainstream publicity? What media and political connections do they have, and why? For being a bit "Hey! I'm trans, me!!!" (despite being in a heterosexual relationship that they claim desperately is trans!!!)

They must have special friends in the media; because their output is so bloody tedious and lacklustre.

“You be the boy, no I’ll be the girl. So who’s the grown up?”

Propertyofhood agree that that’s a great summary from Michelleoftheresistance.

Cheers, Ereshkigal! 🍷

It's not a very interesting anecdote, but yet I thought it might enliven the thread.

It did, Errol 😂 👍🏻

And why are they focusing so much on Owl doing the laundry in that turgid, tedious clip? Is it to prove Owl really is the “woman” of the relationship? No offensive stereotyping there at all?

Ooh, this is actually lovely.

www.earthtouchnews.com/natural-world/animal-behaviour/the-curious-incident-of-the-owl-and-fox-in-the-night-time/

They must have right dong dongs about who does the laundry and who puts out the rubbish.

Owl is really letting the side down now - fancy writing for the transphobic Guardian! Didn’t Owl know about the boycott? Owl is a scab!

No doubt someone will be along to scold Owl for Owl’s white privileged soon. Didn’t Owl get the memo? White non-binary trans people need to sit down and listen to black trans folk with HIV:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=zHlnQMY9KM0

(Luckily, an expert is on hand to teach white trans people how to apologise)

"Its one of those logical fallacies .... make a valid assertion but then draw invalid conclusions from it."

The right are very good at that, e.g. Ben Shapiro. It is why they claim to be the ones with 'facts'.

I wonder what this says about Fisher.

I predict that in about five years time Fox Fisher will be on the transwidow thread. Owl appears very dominant and Fox seems to be willing to follow the lead in their unconventional heterosexual relationship.

I suspect Owl needs either a 'man' or a lesbian to validate their femininity.

I really couldn't give a rats ass. I hope they just grow up and realise that actually, hey, they aren't unique and very very special (and just shut up already)

Says the person who is in a relationship with a pair of curtains.

You may we’ll laugh but we all fit nicely under the stonewall umbrella...

Just tell MrF to pull himself together.

You are assuming that Xi and a he? Tut tut tut

Apologies. I know MrF is a Mr from your previous post, or at least was a few hours ago, but logically someone who identifies as a pair of curtains is a they. Hum sorry, logic probably doesn't come into it.

Look - it’s after 19:45 when Mr curtains becomes Ms Venetian blinds, except for the last Tuesday in the month (not leap years) when they self ID as a non binary great crested newt. Do keep up...