Special trans taxi services to keep them safe

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Hey BBC, where's our front-page promoted article and video interview about all the things women have done for and by each other, for centuries, to stay safe in public? No?

The "look at poor ickle us suffering from these things nobody has ever had to worry about before" is so infuriating. We have been living this shit forever.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-49516092/the-taxi-service-trying-to-keep-trans-people-safe

Do you want a hand moving those goalposts?

Nope, you seem to have that covered.

Because if you get in a taxi with a trans person, what will happen?

Do you want a hand moving those goalposts

Nah

You moved em you put them back

Oops

Lack of refreshing there...sorry errol

Great minds think alike, Rufus.
And sometimes us too.

Kark I am just intrigued as to why there is such a strong narrative that transwomen in particular face enormous personal risk from strangers and are being killed en masse. There is no credible evidence to show that this happens at all, especially in the UK. Transwomen are not being murdered and in countries with a slightly higher death rate, there is usually a link to sex work, which is notoriously dangerous. Why do ‘allies’ want to spread this mis-information? Do you think it is a good thing that trans people are fearful or something? No objection to this taxi service but I don’t think it’s good to suggest to trans people that they will be physically unsafe if they go out. It feels as if allies are delighting in the supposed danger that trans people face and it’s a bit weird.

Because if you get in a taxi with a trans person, what will happen?

Most probably nothing at all. Same as if you were in a cab with a male driver. Statistically, whether your driver identified as a trans woman or was a male, then your risks of being assaulted etc would be identical (since transwomen's offending rates are the same as men's rates - they don't mirror women's offending rates). Most taxi journeys are uneventful, regardless of the driver.

But any woman should have the right not to have that risk (however small) put upon her. If a woman didn't want a male cab driver, or a male nurse, or a male midwife, or a male police officer etc etc then they should have the right, in circumstances where they may be vulnerable (or because of their religion), to have a female driver/medic/midwife etc. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp.

Karka transmen have a statistically lower rate of offending than biological men.
Another odd thing that allies do is to pretend that transmen have some inherent privilege. The fact that they are largely absent from all discourse around transgender issues suggests to me that they should be the real focus of your attention. Trans men saying they are men does not mean that others, especially biological men, accept them as such in any meaningful way, which leaves them open to all sorts of vulnerabilities.

Do you know the 2nd half of the ‘Great minds think alike’ Quote

Its

And Fools seldom differ

Why do you have such an issue writing the word transwomen without a space in it to highlight men?

You don't have any legal right in the UK to demand a female taxi driver. The option not to get in a taxi is always available to you though.

The questions?

It's an absolutely classic technique of obfuscation to ask countless frivolous questions to draw away from the heart of the matter. And I'm not falling for it.

Making unfounded assertions and wilfully misinterpreting what others have said is another.

Sure, I can decide not to get a taxi. But what about the right to have a female nurse doing a smear test? Or the right for a Muslim girl not to have to share a tent with a biological male at a Girl Guide camp? Or the right for there to be an all-women shortlist for MP selection?

What about the right of lesbians to define themselves as single-sex attracted?

Should we just accept that we have no rights at all, and let men dictate to us what we should and shouldn't accept?

Which of those questions was 'frivolous', btw?

Sorry, silly me - the ones concerning women's rights and safety, presumably.
Yup. Definitely frivolous.

Freckled those are frivolous questions, apparently.

Those AWAs do like their topsy turvy priorities.

You keep insisting that trans people have the right to trans only services/spaces and no one disagrees with that. I don’t think that those who do not identify as trans should use those services/spaces. Everyone is entitled to a space/service where they feel safe and respected. I’ve absolutely no issue with that.

Now, are you ever going to answer the simple question, Karkasaurus?
Do you think women should be entitled services/spaces completely free from males, no matter how those males identify?

What have any of those things got to do with taking a taxi?

@S17S1naidSucks

I've already answered you. Read the thread.

I've already answered you. Read the thread.

Nope. You’ve danced around the question and talked about what legal rights women have or don’t have. You’ve not once said if you agree that women are morally ENTITLED to those services/spaces. Do you think women SHOULD be entitled to services/spaces free from males, no matter how they identify?

Karkasaurus - well, the relevance is women's services and provisions for women. And what women are allowed to do and what women are prevented from doing. The fundamental thread, that you may have picked up on, is the right for women to organise themselves, and the services they provide and receive, on the basis of their sex. Which appears to be something you disagree with.

Anyone else humming Dancing Queen?