Special trans taxi services to keep them safe

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Hey BBC, where's our front-page promoted article and video interview about all the things women have done for and by each other, for centuries, to stay safe in public? No?

The "look at poor ickle us suffering from these things nobody has ever had to worry about before" is so infuriating. We have been living this shit forever.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-49516092/the-taxi-service-trying-to-keep-trans-people-safe

You can assess your risk anyway you like.

I’ll stuck to actual facts.

And if I don’t get to know the actual facts then I can’t do that.

And that's precisely the same reason that I, and many, many, many others are quite happy to be alone with a transwoman. Because the chances of them being a rapist are negligible

Happy to be alone with a transwoman too
And men
fully expect that comment to make heads implode or explode or summat
As I take people as they are. Not as a whole class of people to stay away from just because they're not biologically female.

So you can just not get in a taxi with them then, can't you?

I don't think that's the point under discussion in that specific exchange really, is it? Nice deflection though, smoothly done.

With the fact that was John warboys, this thread just gets crasser and crasser

He drove a black cab, so the most trustworthy, vetted, expensive type, in London anyway.

He raped in excess of 100 women.

...so to mitigate against my risk of car accident, I might decide not to get into a car driven by someone I knew or reasonably suspected to have been drinking, or if there weren't seatbelts, or the car was otherwise not roadworthy.

In the city where I live, I'd prefer to hire my regular driver rather than a random Uber - it's notoriously dangerous & lots of the Uber drivers drive like maniacs - the faster they can get to their next fare, the more money they make.

Obvious risks & sensible precautions, right?

To protect myself against rape, I'd be interested in using a female only service. Also sensible.

Here, have some more straw, you're running out.

Indeed, you can make decisions about your own risk. And the option to not get into a taxi driven by a transwoman is always available to you, isn't it?

If you prefer to be driven by a woman, that option is available to you, isn't it?

Were you just referring to rape?

Yes, and sexual assault over a lifetime. Which I believe is the official statistic. And yes, I agree, that the unofficial statistic would be about 100%.

So
If we go with don’t have to get in a taxi with them for the sake of amusement.

How does that work if I specifically booked a female taxi driver, and I get a male taxi driver? I mean the taxi driver is perfectly nice, may or may not identify as a woman, but I asked for a female driver.

What happens next?

fully expect that comment to make heads implode or explode or summat

Haha, crossing it out doesn't make your argument look any more intelligent, nor built of less straw.

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You can choose not to take a taxi.

If you prefer to be driven by a woman, that option is available to you, isn't it?

No. For many women it is not. You seem to have a strange understanding of how the world works. We don't all have female only taxi services near enough to use.

Catalogue, surely if you were wanting to ensure a female taxi driver, you'd ring up your nearest female only drivers taxi?
If you just rung up Joe Bloggs Taxi down the road, staffing issues would probably mean you'd not always get a female driver

You can choose not to take a taxi.

And walk 10 miles home along dark roads at 3am? I can't understand why anything ever happens to women in taxis at all

I mean apart from the fact that I’m now without the transport I asked for potentially leaving me in a now higher risk situation.

I reject said taxi drivers offer of service.

Taxi driver says no problem I understand and drives off to get another hire?

Or some other scenario.

Catalogue, surely if you were wanting to ensure a female taxi driver, you'd ring up your nearest female only drivers taxi?

Yet again 🙄

You seem to have a strange understanding of how the world works. We don't all have female only taxi services near enough to use.

Crossed out or not, knew full well it'd make your head explode and you just had to comment
Thought I'd get it in before I got Roses, you do know that transwomen are biologically men, dear me! so thought I'd pre-empt you and save you the hassle

I am incredibly lucky that I don't know a woman that has been murdered by their ex/current partner, but I know it happens 2-3 times a week.

It's unsurprising that you don't know one. There are over 32 million women in the UK.

Kark the fact that there is a potential choice of taxis is irrelevant. You don't know if the driver is a danger until it is too late and then you have the choice of getting out early and a walk to you destination which has danger in itself if it is eg late at night or staying in the taxi and that's assuming you can get out. A female does have a better chance of defending themselves against another female than and male and female do pose a much lesser risk than males, but there are exceptions to every rule of course.

I am truly sorry you were assaulted.

I’m being very specific

I prebooked in advance a female driver and was assured no problem.

A male arrives. Gender identity irrelevant.

What happens when I reject the drivers services?

“Seems a tall order, but ok if that’s what you need. I have no interest at all in the attitude, opinion or personal outlook of the man who will be driving my taxi later. Couldn’t care less what he thinks about me.”

I bet you’re white :)

Trans people wanting a trans friendly taxi service is more along the same lines as brown or black people not wanting to get in a cab with a britain first bumper sticker on it, which is understandable surely? The statistical likelihood of actually being on the end of a racially motivated beating doesn’t have to be very high for you to prefer being in a cab with a non racist? This is surely just the same no? It’s not thought policing or equating thoughts and opinions with physical danger. Humans can be concerned about more that one thing. There are always loads of threads on here moaning about trans people gegging in on other minorities’ provisions and ‘why don’t they campaign for their own’ etc. Then when they do they get a bitchy thread about it.

Then when they do they get a bitchy thread about it.

Everybody is broadly supportive of the concept of a taxi service for trans people. The OP comment was contrasting that, and particularly the BBC fawning over it, with the reception women get when they want a female only service or space that excludes all male people including those who identify as women.

Lifetime 20%?

Don't make me laugh!

If that is what govt etc thinks then no wonder we are being failed so badly.

If you don't like the only person available to perform a service for you, then you will have to do without that service. If you are that concerned about risk that you refuse to get into a vehicle driven by someone who has or has ever had a penis, then you will find yourself in a rather limited position.

If you believe it should be a legal requirement that you have a female born driver available to you, on demand, to drive you to your destination, then I suggest starting a petition or writing to your MP. But think the chances of having that successfully made part of UK law to be vanishingly small. And in my opinion, rightly so.

That figure is ridiculous.