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Special trans taxi services to keep them safe

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 04/09/2019 13:52

Hey BBC, where's our front-page promoted article and video interview about all the things women have done for and by each other, for centuries, to stay safe in public? No?

The "look at poor ickle us suffering from these things nobody has ever had to worry about before" is so infuriating. We have been living this shit forever.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-49516092/the-taxi-service-trying-to-keep-trans-people-safe

OP posts:

Datun · 07/09/2019 17:26

Nope. Women being vulnerable alone in the back of a taxi, is not something they, as a passenger, can control, I'm afraid.

Karkasaurus · 07/09/2019 17:27

It was specified that women are vulnerable with their knickers around their ankles. I was wondering how common this is when taking a taxi journey.

Karkasaurus · 07/09/2019 17:28

Ah, of course. I forgot that you didn't have a choice of taxis.

CatalogueUniverse · 07/09/2019 17:28

One question

Sex segregated services - Protected by law or denied.

Choose one.

And (sigh) I mean biological sex. Not got a new birth certificate, not my passport says.

Datun · 07/09/2019 17:29

The one where you're trying to pretend you're not strawmanning in every single argument, not turning my statistics about men, relentlessly back to transwomen and you asserting, miraculously that you know what I mean, by using words I haven't said.

That mask.

Karkasaurus · 07/09/2019 17:29

It's literally impossible to be attacked or hurt by a woman, so I do wonder why you wouldn't simply arrange for a female taxi driver. But apparently that is also literally impossible.

RosesAndRaindrops · 07/09/2019 17:29

And what mask would that be, please?

Think "she's" doing her usual dig of you're an MRA TRA man at those "she" disagrees with.
Which is pretty sick when you've said you've been assaulted on the thread, but hey.

Datun · 07/09/2019 17:30

It was specified that women are vulnerable with their knickers around their ankles. I was wondering how common this is when taking a taxi journey.

It was in a list where the word vulnerable was used. You appear to think that women are only vulnerable if they are wearing nothing but knickers in public. Why should it matter what they are wearing, incidentally?

Karkasaurus · 07/09/2019 17:31

I think you mean me disagreeing with you. It's not a mask. I simply disagree with you. You can play the person and not the ball if you like, but that's all it comes down to.

Datun · 07/09/2019 17:32

Think "she's" doing her usual dig of you're an MRA TRA man at those "she" disagrees with.

And you're doing your usual, let me invent everything you say, so I can leverage my agenda at you.

It really would be quite refreshing, Rose, if you could talk to people about what they say, not what you invent for them to say.

Karkasaurus · 07/09/2019 17:33

I don't think it does matter what women are wearing. But you raised that as a concern. And I'm wondering what relevance being in your underwear has to do with being in a taxi. You're not traditionally in your underwear when you're in a taxi.

Datun · 07/09/2019 17:33

No kark, you're pretending that vulnerable means naked. You're pretending that being alone in the backseat of a taxi only makes a woman vulnerable if she is in her knickers. No one has said that, except you.

Karkasaurus · 07/09/2019 17:35

Why did you specify that a woman is vulnerable in her underwear if you yourself think that it's irrelevant?

TheAlternativeTentacle · 07/09/2019 17:35

Which is pretty sick when you've said you've been assaulted on the thread, but hey.

Many of us have been assaulted. Why are you only concerned with one person that has been assaulted? Why is it pretty sick to carry on discussing men as a threat, just because one person has said they have been assaulted by a woman? It looks like you are trying to say that other people cannot discuss the threat of men, purely because it upsets someone who was assaulted by a woman? That person has chosen to come into a thread, they are not being forced into it.

PurpleCrowbar · 07/09/2019 17:37

Datun - from reading your post about vulnerability, obviously what you also meant was that women are also immediately stripped to their knickers & left in them on being remanded to prison, right?!

Or hey, maybe there's some advanced level strawmanning going on from a couple of posters? It's a mystery...

TheAlternativeTentacle · 07/09/2019 17:37

Hence sex segregation. Especially when women are vulnerable, undressed, disrobing, with their knickers around their ankles, in prison, etc.

This is a list of different situations.

It is not saying that the only vulnerable women are those that are undressed, and disrobing, and with their knickers around their ankles, and in prison. It is giving a list of different vulnerable situations.

Karkasaurus · 07/09/2019 17:38

The point is that you can be assaulted by anyone. And I personally find it difficult to accept the concept that I'm magically safe from harm if I'm alone with a woman.

I'm not safe unless I'm not alone with someone who is prepared to sexually abuse me. And I can't tell that from whether they have a penis or not.

Datun · 07/09/2019 17:40

Why did you specify that a woman is vulnerable in her underwear if you yourself think that it's irrelevant?

Where did I say it's irrelevant??

I bet that straw itches like mad.

CatalogueUniverse · 07/09/2019 17:40

Magically safe from harm? No
Safe from rape?- yes
Massive reduction in risk? - yes.

RosesAndRaindrops · 07/09/2019 17:41

And you're doing your usual, let me invent everything you say, so I can leverage my agenda at you

Nope, just if you're going to dig and insinuate at posters you can't really be surprised when it turns out they mis-read what you (supposedly) meant - just come straight out and say what you actually mean instead of insinuating stuff.

TheAlternativeTentacle · 07/09/2019 17:41

And I personally find it difficult to accept the concept that I'm magically safe from harm if I'm alone with a woman

Nobody is every 'magically safe from harm'.

It's about assessing the risk and reducing it. Surely you understand that if statistics show that 98% of sexual assaults are committed by men, this means that the chances of anyone being sexually assaulted by a man are higher than by a woman?

It's basic maths.

And yes, NOT MY NIGEL. We know.

Ereshkigal · 07/09/2019 17:41

It really would be quite refreshing, Rose, if you could talk to people about what they say, not what you invent for them to say.

Wouldn't it. I wouldn't hold your breath.

Karkasaurus · 07/09/2019 17:43

So by that logic, presumably you're happy with me saying that you're at greater risk of being in a car accident than being raped by a taxi driver, so why are you bothered about the chances of being raped?

Datun · 07/09/2019 17:43

The point is that you can be assaulted by anyone.

98% of the time they'll be male. Stop pretending that's not the case.

And I personally find it difficult to accept the concept that I'm magically safe from harm if I'm alone with a woman.

There is no magic involved. Likelihood and statistics.

RosesAndRaindrops · 07/09/2019 17:43

Many of us have been assaulted. Why are you only concerned with one person that has been assaulted?

I'm not - if you read the thread you'll find I said I'm sorry for anyone who's suffered, but hey pretend I didn't and only concerned about one if you like.

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