Special trans taxi services to keep them safe

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Hey BBC, where's our front-page promoted article and video interview about all the things women have done for and by each other, for centuries, to stay safe in public? No?

The "look at poor ickle us suffering from these things nobody has ever had to worry about before" is so infuriating. We have been living this shit forever.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-49516092/the-taxi-service-trying-to-keep-trans-people-safe

Ignored isn't the problem. You're massively minimising the experiences of transwomen.

You're the one who drew a comparison to bring raped and being ignored by someone who may or may not like you because of who you are.

No its not a competition but your comments are utterly and hopelessly crass.

You are minimising the very real everyday experiences of women and girls, by drawing equivalence with being, what, looked at a bit funny.

You have stated that gc women are more of a threat to trans people than men.

It's all nonsense. Just reversals of the truth.

'You're massively minimising the experiences of transwomen'

And you're appropriating other peoples arguments and words.

When I read about trans people being attacked, it's by men. When I read about them being murdered in other countries, it's by men. Often men they know.

Are you Peter tatchell? He recently decided that gc feminists in the uk were responsible for the murder of a transwoman by her boyfriend in the USA.

It's all nonsense. Just reversals of the truth

It really is. And once you've made your point, it becomes subject to the law of diminishing returns.

No, I haven't. I haven't specified whether men or women pose more of a risk. It's the negative attitude towards them. It must be extremely traumatic to live like that.

Negative attitude towards men, do you mean?

Just passing comment and opinions like people tend to do on MN.

Yes that's what I said first. Keep up.

What exactly do you think one of the women on this thread would do if they were a cab driver and a fare was a transperson?

I mean you are saying that the risk to the transperson would be more than if the cab driver were the standard unreconstructed bloke that we tend to get driving round here.

You're being silly.

If you are saying men when you mean transwomen, you're being a dick.

No I'm saying men when I mean men.

Also to the PP who keeps writing transwo men, you're being a dick too.

It's the negative attitude towards them. It must be extremely traumatic to live like that.

Well perhaps if men didn't constitute the oppressor class, complete with committing 99 percent of all sex offences, we wouldn't look at them funny when they disregard our need for boundaries.

'I'm amused that people can't see the irony in posting hugely negative comments about a particular group of people and then can't see that they are precisely the very cause of that group of people needing a taxi service they feel safe in.'

^^ statement by kark that it is gc women on mn that present the threat to trans people that mean they need their own taxis.

How many of us do you think are cab drivers? I mean, for a start.

no I'm saying men when I mean men

Bloody hell, talk about a potatoes, patatas way to say no I'm not saying that but yes I am saying that really I mean WTF lol

I'm just confused as to the group of people you say we are actively making negative comments about.

A lot of MRAs come here and take offence at us saying things like according to statistics, men commit 90% of violent crime.

I'm not saying you or anyone here is an MRA, I just want to understand what you're saying.

I'm not sure if you have looked into the transwomen who have been murdered, but (with a quick check) of the 16, 6 have been confirmed to have been killed by men the other 10 have no reference to the murderers gender identity, and so the accusation that this taxi service is the response to protect against gender critical people is inaccurate. The article states the taxi service was in response to the murders not trans people being uncomfortable due to people disagreeing with them and I think it is rather belittling of the trans communities concerns of murder to suggest otherwise.

I think it is perfectly reasonable and acceptable for trans people to have their own services, but in the same vein that means it is also acceptable and reasonable for other groups to have the same (in this example natal females).

The point bring made is that although natal women are happy and supportive for trans people to have their own services and provisions we should also be afforded the same support to be able to have single sex services and provisions if we wish.

Standard unreconstructed bloke
Jesus.

Oh FFS. Ok.

If I was talking about transwomen I would have used the word transwomen.

I used the word men because I was talking about men.

Or are you implying that women's words, on mumsnet, incite the sort of men who enjoy beating up people they see as inferior, to go and do that?

You see that, as well, is a ridiculous reversal.

The sort of men who enjoy beating up gender non conforming men usually aren't red hot keen on gender non conforming women. Especially non compliant ones. Which many gc feminists are.

But rather than tackle the common problem, which is violent men, its the women who are to blame, who must be stopped etc.

Tell you what if we all shut up tomorrow, there would be no change to men attacking anyone. In fact it would probably increase. Because it seems that speaking for victims of male violence is, for some reason, 'women's work'.

If you are saying men when you mean transwomen, you're being a dick.

Not everyone in the world is going to use your personal preferred language, however outraged you get about it. As I said before, unreasonable expectations are self-defeating. You can't control what other people think.

Not literally Jesus, before somebody says, thought I'd better make that clear!
Was an expression of flabbergast.

'Standard unreconstructed bloke
Jesus.'

???

The cab drivers in my area fit this bill quite well. NATDALT as I mentioned earlier. But, ime, lots and lots are. And some are worse, I've had to get away from 3 in my life, as also mentioned earlier.

That's my experience.

I wasn't talking about transwomen!

I feel like Holly.

You see that, as well, is a ridiculous reversal.

Everything, with transactivists and their allies, is a reversal of the truth. It's their sole debating tactic.

I confidently would put money on the number of cab drivers at my local firm being gender critical feminists as few to none.

And as gender critical feminists are the risk to trans people, that opens their options right up. Which is good, surely.

Apart from we all know its men who are the risk.