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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Green Party - self identifying non-males

102 replies

Popchyk · 03/09/2019 10:19

The Green Party being hilarious again.

www.greenparty.org.uk/people/regional-council.html

Regional Council Members:
GPRC Co-Chairs:

Self identifying Non-Male Co-Chair: Liz Carlton (Eastern Region)
Self identifying Non-Female Co-Chair: Rob Grant (West Midlands Region)

Twitter thread commenting on it.

twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1168769829312053253

OP posts:
Leakinglikeacolander · 03/09/2019 14:28

Not really as au fait with the whole gender thing as I should be , but I don't actually understand what they are saying tbh.Blush

NellieEllie · 03/09/2019 14:49

Even if I tiptoe briefly into the madness of the “gender id” universe, I’m not sure what the hell this means. A “non male” - does that just mean female? And “non female” means male? How the heck is “non male” any different from “female” apart from being a circumlocution office way of saying it?

Strikes me as most transphobic. If you Id as a particular sex on the basis that you’re not the opposite one, Id say you’re not only reinforcing the sex binary, but grossly emphasising it, by re launching it with a new ironic definition that appears to be, well, really silly........

Shame on those “terf” Greens.

NellieEllie · 03/09/2019 14:50

Surely this is parody....

ThePurported · 03/09/2019 14:50

Someone on the twitter thread suggested they were trolling their own party! I hope that's true

No I don't think they are trolling. The Green Party only recognises self-identified gender, not sex, and they have targets for how many roles are filled by non-men and the number of local candidates who don't identify as male.
The 'non-male' stuff was the work of Challenor and friends, so I'm a bit surprised that the party hasn't seen it fit to revisit the wordings and how they talk about 'gender'. I suppose they want to preserve Challenor's legacy?

The only time GP uses the word female in its correct sense is in the context of FGM.

MorrisZapp · 03/09/2019 14:52

I am rapidly realising that no reasonable organisation has a 'co chair'.

maslinpan · 03/09/2019 14:59

Maybe the chair identifies as the treasurer, the treasurer identifies as the secretary, and the secretary identifies as the chair? It's all such hard work!

BeMoreMagdalen · 03/09/2019 15:06

If it's a choice between the Brexist Incels in current charge of this country and the Green party I'd choose the Greens every time

Ffs, why do we have to settle for either? What the fuck is wrong with this picture?

Gingerkittykat · 03/09/2019 15:06

Non binary are both non male AND non female. Does this mean they can hold both or neither position.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 03/09/2019 15:12

What the fuck is wrong with this picture?

Mostly the linking of the word 'incels' to support for brexit.

Don't get me wrong, brexit is an unmittigated disaster with no positive aspects whatsoever that will wreck our economy and ruin our children's futures, but what the hell does it have to do with incels?

Or is 'incel' just the new over the top word of choice for 'people I disagree with'?

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2019 15:17

Non binary are both non male AND non female. Does this mean they can hold both or neither position.

Yes. And no.

I can't believe anyone actually 'self-identifies' as a 'non-Male' or 'non-female'.
Surely this has to be someone hacking their site as a belated response to their ludicrous (and seriously sexist) 'men and non-men' designations from a while back?

Poe's law, cant tell parody from reality.Confused

BeMoreMagdalen · 03/09/2019 15:26

Arnold, it's this utterly bizarre notion that there is no choice between a fantasy Tory party made out to be worse than Thanos, or a bunch of cranks in the Green party who still haven't learned any lessons from cossetting a convicted child rapist's offspring because that dim witted, unqualified offspring calls themselves trans.

Like, how can you have enough imagination to add such ineptly pointless 'evil' details to political opponents, but not enough to understand that you have more options than just voting for soup for brains abuse enablers instead?

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 03/09/2019 15:36

Buzz GrinGrin

Seriously though if a general election is called tomorrow I have no fucking idea who to vote for Confused

ThePurported · 03/09/2019 15:38

No Errol, just google Green Party's conference agenda documents from the last couple of years. No parody. They've put a lot of thought into this. Hmm

They want roles go to non-male people but at the same time they only recognise self-identified gender, so they have to use the format "Self identifying Non-Male" for clarity to ensure that they are adhering to their own principles.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 03/09/2019 15:38

But what I am sure of is that the gender madness I've seen in the last few years and spending time on this board has made me sweary as F*#k now Wink

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 03/09/2019 15:41

BeMoreMagdalen

It's a symptom of polarisation. We used to be able to discuss policies and vote for the party that was most in line with our views while still being able to say where our views on a particular matter aligned with a rival. This used to be considered normal.

Now it seems you either have to agree about every tiny detail of the party line or be condemned as 'Hitler', or apparently now an 'incel'. What nonsense.

BeMoreMagdalen · 03/09/2019 15:44

Arnold, yup. Does my head in. I'm going to log off and go and have an argument over a cup of tea with my next door neighbour about putting their regular rubbish in my recycling bin, like a normal person.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2019 15:45

Whatever Boris Johnson is, he's verifiably not an incel.ConfusedGrin

woman19 · 03/09/2019 16:19

Whatever Boris Johnson is, he's verifiably not an incel.confusedgrin
Entitled bullying corrupt violent and sexually incontinent white men are often incels no? ?

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2019 16:23

'Incel' means 'involuntarily celibate'.

woman19 · 03/09/2019 16:29

Incel' means 'involuntarily celibate

Maybe that's why Symonds was screaming "Get off me" when the police were called to the suspected domestic abuse case involving Johnson at her house?

Look at the state of him; who would do it volountarily with that creature. Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2019 16:43

Hence the Confused in my post.

woman19 · 03/09/2019 16:48

How about 'sexist thug'. That seems to cover all bases? Grin

BeMoreMagdalen · 03/09/2019 16:54

Thought this thread was about the inanely pointless bullshit from the Greens. Why are some so keen to talk about Boris Johnson?

woman19 · 03/09/2019 17:06

Tories are diabolical for Women's Rights. They are in power.

The Greens have 1 MP.

Is this thread policed too? Confused

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/09/2019 17:09

So what are you?

Well - I’m not male
So a woman
No - not female
Animal vegetable or mineral then?

Technically someone could hold both posts at the same time. The greens have gone a bit (more) bonkers.