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Thousands of children forced to grow up in shipping containers

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stumbledin · 22/08/2019 00:16

More than 210,000 children are estimated to be homeless across England, with thousands growing up in shipping containers, office blocks and B&Bs, often miles away from their schools, research shows.

Politicians and campaigners have accused ministers of a “catastrophic failure” to address the housing crisis after a study by the children’s commissioner found the true number of children living without a permanent home was considerably higher than government estimates.

Ms Longfield said: “Something has gone very wrong with our housing system when children are growing up in B&Bs, shipping containers and old office blocks.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/child-homeless-shipping-containers-office-blocks-housing-a9071726.html

What an indictment of the UK that in 21st century children are being put through this. And presumably this means that many single women have found themselves with no other option than to accept this is the only option they have.

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MonkeyToesOfDoom · 26/08/2019 21:11

HelenaDove

Ah the old "be grateful for what you get"

This attitude sickens the hell out of me.
Right up there with people assuming their taxes are funding scroungers and lazy to just have kids and big TVs.

HelenaDove · 26/08/2019 23:52

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/22/we-need-social-housing-not-warehouses-for-homeless-children

We need social housing, not warehouses, for homeless kids
Daniel Lavelle

Parking familes in temporary ‘human warehouses’, as reported by the children’s commissioner, is storing up problems.

‘On top of the social exclusion, these children will be exposed to things they would have been sheltered from under normal circumstances’ ... ‘Human warehouse’ Terminus House in Harlow. Photograph: Chris J Ratcliffe/Getty

In 2009 David Cameron’s Conservatives pledged to do everything in their power to strengthen families in order to prevent poverty. With the news that thousands of families are now homeless and raising their children in converted shipping containers, it’s safe to say they’ve failed on that score. The children’s commissioner for England says that 210,000 young people are homeless, either living in hostels and temporary accommodation or sofa surfing.

The report says that one in 10 new homes created in England and Wales since 2016 are in office blocks such as Terminus House in Harlow, which is known locally as a “human warehouse” and was described as “social cleansing” by local Tory MP Robert Halfon. Children are often being moved hours away from their homes, told they’ll only be in temporary accommodation for a few months then left to languish there for as long as a year. The conditions in temporary accommodation are often cramped, crowded, isolated from supportive family networks and schools, and in areas blighted by crime and anti-social behaviour.
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These are the kind of living conditions you’d expect to learn about in a history lesson on the Victorian slums. And the NSPCC says these Dickensian dwellings are harmful to children – which is hardly surprising, when they’re being forced to live in sardine tins and are maligned as “office block kids” by bullies in the playground.

Being excluded from schools and growing up in the care system caused me to move around a lot in my childhood. By the time I was 16 I had lived at 10 addresses and attended six schools. I can tell you from experience that this is not the best way to build up a strong support network. Because I often lived outside the areas that my school was in, I found myself not fitting in among the kids who played out where I lived. And I wasn’t involved in the same after-school clubs, sports clubs and hangouts as my classmates, meaning I struggled to fit in at school, too.

The psychological cost was enormous. I began to feel like there was something wrong with me. Paralysed by my own self-consciousness, I started to avoid social interactions altogether and withdrew into my own bubble. I became a miserable and resentful misanthrope in my early adulthood, something that has taken years to break free from. I’m still not comfortable in my own skin. I can’t help but think that this would have been different if I’d had a conventional upbringing.

On top of the social exclusion, these children will be exposed to things they would have been sheltered from under normal circumstances. There is reported to be a drugs network operating outside Terminus House, which provides temporary accommodation for homeless people from the capital,, while many of the B&Bs, hostels and other temporary housing in the UK have people struggling with drug abuse and serious mental health problems living alongside young families. It won’t be a surprise if those kids fall into that lifestyle after being desensitised to it at such a young age.

If we continue to ignore this problem, as well as the obvious solutions to it, we risk raising a generation of underprivileged children who feel worthless, alienated and only good enough for an old office block or a disused shipping container. Because we know why this is happening: austerity and lack of social housing. We know what we need to do about it: increase spending and build enough social housing. But this government refuses to recognise the causes and is ideologically incapable of recognising the solution. This will doubtless be evident in the forthcoming conference season with endless routine Conservative pleas for personal responsibility.
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In 2009 Cameron said: “We want to see a more responsible society, where people behave in a decent and civilised way, where they understand their obligations to others, to their neighbours, to their country.” Indeed there is a line where society’s responsibility ends and personal responsibility begins, but how can you be expected to make the “right” choice when it’s simply not available to you?"

Nat6999 · 27/08/2019 00:08

Instead of fitting out shipping containers, they would be better putting families in static caravans, big piece of land, install water, electricity & sewerage services. Static caravans are warm, have more room. After the floods in 2007 Doncaster Council housed flooded out families in static caravans until their homes were safe & dry, they did a deal with a caravan manufacturer to buy caravans in bulk. Why arent more councils thinking along these lines? Shipping containers aren't designed to be lived in.

Whedon · 27/08/2019 00:59

They have built these containers a few roads away from us. Outside of London. At the same time there is rampant development of new build homes going on, mostly overpriced. Local people have been protesting the building of these containers for a while now but to no avail, I can only imagine how uncomfortable the people living there must be in this heat :(

HelenaDove · 27/08/2019 01:26

There is something about that upthread Whedon 34c+ and sleeping outside on the walkway.

I cant help wondering if a manslaughter charge would apply if someone dies of heat stroke in one of those things.

HelenaDove · 27/08/2019 01:33

Nat that would be better than bloody shipping containers.

Goosefoot · 27/08/2019 02:59

Yeah, you can make small prefab housing quite cheaply if it's done properly. I can't see shipping containers being cheaper, I think they'd actually be more expensive because you couldn't get the same kinds of efficiencies in terms of materials or production. It would only be cheaper if they weren't really trying to make them liveable.

Xenia · 27/08/2019 08:05

(On the 2011 counci housing programme - link above - it was the Labour government of hte late 70s that changed the law to make council housing for those most in need and in a sense then ruined it as it was not something for all classes which had perhaps kept lots of people "bought into it" and it being mixed housing rather than just those at their most desperate)

HelenaDove · 27/08/2019 22:13

Im only surprised the council isnt charging them more for the sauna provided Hmm

HelenaDove · 29/08/2019 22:55

@stumbledin You might want to check out ITVs Tonight programme Housing Crisis..........Whats Next for the Elderly.

BarbaraStrozzi · 29/08/2019 23:08

Helena, I'd just like to thank you for your tireless work in pursuing this and piecing together all the strands, and putting them together in one fantastic resource.

HelenaDove · 29/08/2019 23:24

Ta Barbara Thanks Love your user name btw.

stumbledin · 30/08/2019 00:20

Helena thanks for the info re ITV - I hadn't seen that.

On a related issue, Radio 4 has been doing a programme looking at the comparative cost of housing buying since the 70s. I haven't had time to listen to it properly, just heard snatches. I think it is more a fact checked programme than one of those saying baby boomers could all afford to buy houses. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007wdx/episodes/player

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HelenaDove · 30/08/2019 00:27

Thanks @stumbledin Thanks

HelenaDove · 30/08/2019 01:57

www.betterretirementhousing.com/shared-equity-your-housing-group-retirement-flat-that-sold-for-38000-on-itv-tonight/

Shared equity Your Housing Group retirement flat that sold for £38,000 on ITV tonight.

A family who bought a shared equity retirement flat and lost £50,000 on its re-sale will feature on ITV tonight

Cath White’s mother bought 75% of the property at Your Housing Group’s Heyeswood Retirement Village, in Haydock, Merseyside in August 2015.

It sold three years later– after three years on the market – for £70,000, but additional fees amounted to more than £50,000.

They broke down as follows:
Service charges: £23,370.57
Sinking fund contribution: £5855.07
0.75% Administration Cost: £525
1% Reassignment fees: £700
Legal admin fees: £420

These leave the total proceeds of the sale at £39,129.26p.

These leave the total proceeds of the sale at £39,129.26p.

No subletting is allowed at the 92-flat Heyeswood Retirement Village by the Your Housing Group, a housing association, so the family has had to pay out the £6,600 a year service charges on an empty flat.

ITV is carrying its report a week after the Elderly Accommodation Counsel, a charity, produced a complex and date restricted analysis of recent retirement re-sales – and found property prices rose.

The Leasehold Knowledge Partnership / Better Retirement Housing deprecate this report, which includes unverifiable supposed “discount” data provided by retirement house builders. It urged non-publication on the grounds that the EAC was acting as a lobbyist for the house builders.

There is abundant evidence on the Land Registry of the appalling re-sale figures achieved when retirement properties are re-sold.

Better Retirement Housing has reported these at length

HelenaDove · 03/09/2019 19:28

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" Clarion Housing Group has overcharged its tenants by unlawfully setting its average affordable rent levels at 135% of market rent. In a sample of 1,477 Clarion 2 bed rents the 2018 overcharging comes to £10.2 million alone and Clarion had eight times that number of AR properties at 11,903 so the total overcharge could be over £80 million for that year alone though an actual figure closer to a £50 million overcharge is likely, an overcharge of a cool £1 million per week"

The comments underneath are really something else. Disgusting

HelenaDove · 08/09/2019 17:25

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/08/unlearned-lessons-death-of-woman-housing-mental-health-crisis?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet

Mother searches for answers a year after daughter set herself on fire in council housing office

Grieving mother still has questions over daughter’s death which followed months of anxiety over eviction threat

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“This didn’t need to happen – that’s the thing that hurts,” said Melanie’s mother.
“This didn’t need to happen – that’s the thing that hurts,” said Melanie’s mother. Photograph: Karen Robinson/The Observer

It is a year since Melanie Smith walked into the housing offices of Barnet council and set herself on fire.

Yet her mother, Marie Bennett, fears vital lessons that could protect others have not been learned. “This didn’t need to happen – that’s the thing that hurts,” Bennett said. “I don’t think anyone has taken on board that they could maybe prevent other deaths.”

Bennett is also still waiting for answers to her questions, including about Smith’s final conversation with council housing officers, after having experienced months of anxiety about being evicted from her home of two decades. “No one has told me who spoke to her that day, or what was said,” she explained.
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The nature of the tragedy that played out last August in north London seemed almost unprecedented in modern Britain

The desperation that drives someone to self-immolation is more familiar from foreign news reports: the protests of Tibetan monks in China, of demonstrators against Soviet tanks during the Prague spring, or the Tunisian fruit seller whose suicide sparked the Arab spring.

Several people have threatened to set themselves on fire in British welfare offices in the past decade: one man is reported to have badly burned his legs. But the tragedy in Barnet House, the concrete high-rise where the council housing offices were based until recently, appears to be the only death on record.

An Observer investigation has uncovered the pressures that were building in the months before Smith’s devastating decision, and how safety nets that could have protected her in a double crisis of housing and mental health failed at the most critical moment

There is no way to untangle the web of factors that contributed to Smith’s despair. But austerity policies have been linked to tens of thousands of extra deaths and a rise in suicides, studies have found, although most are private tragedies, not public protests.

“It’s the level of desperation that I find frightening,” said Barry Rawlings, a Labour councillor in Barnet, of Smith’s death. “It’s an individual tragedy but it’s also an indication of harm in our society. It suggests there needs to be a national review of policies on housing and welfare.”
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Smith arrived on that afternoon in August 2018 to speak to the council’s “statutory homelessness” team, using an internal telephone system that separated staff from petitioners.

At some point during or after that conversation, she shouted: “Don’t make me do it.” An eyewitness said: “I thought maybe she was going to attack someone.”

But the desperation was turned only against herself. A security guard rapidly extinguished the flames and Smith, who was in her fifties, was airlifted to hospital, but she died after several months in intensive care

Despite the extremity of the protest, once she was carried away in the air ambulance, she all but vanished from the public eye.

The council ordered its employees in Barnet House not to talk about the incident to journalists, sources claimed. Police confirmed only that there had been an incident and the local paper noted simply that a woman had been taken to hospital with burn injuries.
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Smith’s housing crisis began when an eviction notice arrived through the post in April 2018, warning that her landlord had started legal proceedings to remove her from her home.

She had rent arrears of more than £700, which her mother said were a result of the bedroom tax. In theory, she could have moved to a smaller home, but across London there are severe shortages of social housing.

Councils have moved tens of thousands of families out of their areas and many out of the city entirely, government figures show. Residents in Barnet said they had been left with no option but to move as far away as Leicester. Smith was not offered an alternative home by the council, her mother said, and knew her chance of finding one in Barnet was extremely low. But her life was rooted in the area. An artistic woman who loved painting and writing poetry, she kept in touch with a global network of friends and family on Facebook, followed national and international politics and regularly visited a sick relative who lived near by

She liked art galleries, and going on marches,” Bennett said. “Some of her poems were very long, some were political, some about love and life in general.”

Smith had also wrestled with mental health problems, including at least one suicide episode. Her problems were severe enough that she qualified for a free transport pass.

Two weeks before her death, she saw a doctor and reported suicidal thoughts, her mother said. She had also visited the surgery before the tragedy at Barnet House, to ask about a form that could have exempted her from council tax on the grounds of mental impairment, helping to balance the bills.

She said things were getting on top of her and she was finding it difficult to cope. But this was beyond anything you would expect
Marie Bennett, mother

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The doctor certified Smith as healthy, however, and when she tried to speak to someone from the practice, she was turned away by the receptionist, she told her mother.

The local clinical commissioning group said it was unable to comment on individual cases. Depression was given as a partial cause of her death, along with burn injuries

I feel she was let down in such a cruel way really,” Bennett said. “She said things were getting on top of her and she was finding it difficult to cope. But it was beyond anything you would expect to happen in life. Sometimes I still think I’m going to wake up [and find it was a dream], then it hits me again, the full facts.”

Smith had several meetings with Barnet council as the eviction notices built up, but staff were apparently unable to provide her with reassurance that she would be able to stay in her home. A council spokesperson said it carried out a safety review after the incident, and remained “committed to working together with our partners in helping to support vulnerable people”, but declined to comment on an individual case.

Judges handing down eviction orders ask for proof that landlords have made genuine efforts to find a negotiated solution. So a housing association would normally send several letters and make home visits to a renter who faces losing their home.

Smith’s landlord, the Home Group, said it was unable to speak to her because she “chose not to continue to communicate with us” after falling into arrears, but had informed the council about her situation

Given her refusal to engage, we were unable to have the conversations we really wanted to have, which were to help her find a solution in line with what she could afford, given her level of housing benefit,” said Matt Forrest, Home Group’s director of operations. “Our thoughts were at the time, and remain with, our customer and her family and friends.”

It is unclear what Smith was told in the council offices, but her mother believes she felt that eviction proceedings were already under way and could not be stopped.

“I believe she thought they were going to repossess her home,” Bennett said. “That’s the reason it was too much.”

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