Two trans journalists quit The Guardian, citing transphobia

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www.buzzfeed.com/patrickstrudwick/two-transgender-employees-quit-guardian-transphobia

Lawsuits against The Guardian to follow, no doubt.

The article is quite funny in its po-faced declarations of transphobia (and no evidence whatsoever to back them up).

That's what happens when you indulge, indulge, indulge.

They turn on you. They always turn on you.

Look at A Challenor and the Green Party, after everything the Greens did for the Challenors. Challenor quit, citing transphobia.

Generally groups of people who have suffered discrimination in the work place haven't assumed that they would gain equality by threatening to leave.

You need to have quite a strong sense of your own importance to try that tactic.

LangCleg "Is water transphobic yet?"

Not as far as I can see, but it's surely only a matter of time:
wingsoverscotland.com/everything-is-transphobic

‘Acclaimed writers such as Juno Dawson and Shon Faye’

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Acclaimed - that can be a bad thing too, right?

Like when someone says to you ‘that piece of work you did was extraordinary’ and you are too busy preening to realise that they meant ‘extraordinarily bad’.

That article is so beyond any attempt to be an objective piece of journalism it’s a joke.

It’s also hilarious.

Absolutely agree with Goosefoot on lack of basic journalistic ethics in that piece. Or indeed any journalism skills. It’s just a rant.

They are bullies. The more people capitulate to them, the more they attack.
Best just not to give a fuck about them, and say so.

Unfortunately Journalists are getting laid off left right and centre.

I don't think there is a dirty of people who are prepared to write for the Guardian.

Do you know what this all is? Men are not used to having remarks made at them, about anything. They suddenly have placed themselves at the forefront of this "trans world", but are taking every tiny single thing as a slight, because they literally cannot take anything that even slightly hints at people not fully and wholly accepting them in any aspect of life. Due to intrinsic male privilege, they cannot and have never face not being instantly accepted. Women, however, have grown up in a world where they have ALWAYS been judged, always had sexist comments/actions thrown at them, always had violence flung at them for saying "no" etc. And these ex-men suddenly have someone making a teeny, tiny comment they deem "transphobic" (ie referring to "women who have periods" for example, not "people who have periods"), and suddenly they hurl the TERF TRANSPHOBIC BIGOT sandbag to smash the victim in the face.

Yes youdojustyou, male privilege must be difficult to forget hence the transprivilege. Same old.

(I don't think there is a dirth of people)

(sorry, dearth...)

A women is doing stirling work on the fb stop funding hate post of this. Worth a check and support if you can!

I think that's ACAS guidelines, but possibly not verbatim.

Stop Funding Hate are the Woke Stasi foot soldiers

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3343409-Stop-funding-hate

And when did journalists become such shrinking violets?

I know/have known enough journalists to know that the press room is like a bear pit and no holds barred. Maybe it’s changed since Fleet Street...

We fought for our civil rights without demanding that others care about our hurt feelings

People who lack civil rights don't usually assume that other people care about their feelings.

Even now I can't imagine any other group that lacks privilege thinking that this would be a power move.

A while ago I remember Tanni Grey-Thompson tweeting for advice because she needed to get to a meeting but was stuck on a train which had been diverted away from the accessible station she needed to use.

That is what it looks like when you can't go to work.

Lamahaha, great post.

And when did journalists become such shrinking violets?

These people aren't journalists, they're polemicists.

The Guardian, like too many publications, relies far too heavily on click-bait. To a large extent that is what has landed them in their present mess, not least because it has encouraged them to move into non-UK markets leading to the ridiculous situation where US polemicists are moaning about a UK based* paper having the temerity to cover UK issues from a UK view point. How very dare anybody not centre US cultural supremacy at all times.

As for the two attention seeking narcissists, they are best ignored.

*Yes, I'm aware they keep their money in an offshore tax haven

That twitter feed with the straight guys poll

Men are allowed to state biology it would seem. Shocked 15% said yes although as quite a few posted, its a bit of a trick question as if the answer is yes then the poll is not for you!

The guardian getting sued is hillarious, they have avoided trans issues like the plague, a couple of very carefully worded artickes and they are now being taken to court the entitled delussion is hilarious. I think even at the guardian there may have been a mass sigh of relief at the huge flounce.

I'm not that shocked at the 15% yes. Twitter is not a representative sample of the population at large. There was an actual opinion poll at one point, which I think is where the 98% say 'hell no' figure in the cartoon (and WTF is with the small girl in that image?) shown comes from. 98% sounds much more realistic.

The way the heterosexual men in my real life refer to XY trans people and their opinions of them would have me banned from Mumsnet in a heartbeat. Suffice to say, they aren't drinking the Kool Aid.

I'm sure there's lots of people at work who think I'm a bit of a twat, but it doesn't mean I walk through the door on a Monday thinking:

• I’m entering this building with people who are denying my humanity.”

Patrick Strudwick who wrote the BuzzFeed article used to work for The Guardian but is now very critical of the paper. I assume that was why Victoria approached him with her story.

I thought the colleague’s remark about prisons was unnecessary but journalists have always had to decide how they will reconcile differences between their opinions and the editorial line. Not sure the two journalists have a huge number of alternative places to work.