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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 3.1

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GirlDownUnder · 12/08/2019 13:44

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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2BthatUnnoticed · 06/09/2019 01:38

@MNHQ this poster might be messaging others, is it worth reminding people not to reply to weirdos or click on links?

OccasionalKite · 06/09/2019 02:00

Really disappointed about how Mumsnet ignored a very determined and prolific troll, earlier this evening. He ran riot, started lots of threads, commented on all other threads - to try to make the whole Mumsnet FWR first page all him.

I think Mumsnet moderation is somewhat naive when it comes to women and women's rights, and how hateful some men can be about women's rights.

I repeat - other posters have said many times before - Mumsnet moderators really need to do the Freedom Programme.

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/09/2019 02:09

Yes, he also sent creepy messages to at least two members, mocking a woman who was sexually abused by a male nurse.

Datun · 06/09/2019 04:12

TOG? Terry's Old Geezer? And homosexual gay? Is that a thing now? So good he named it twice?

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/09/2019 06:38

I think I understand thighland better than fwr at the moment.

Sorry you're getting stupid messages GC, but loving the sunlight.

ThighThighOfthigh · 06/09/2019 07:00

Neuro pop over for grapefruit, you strike me as a clean ater.

ThighThighOfthigh · 06/09/2019 07:00

^eater

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/09/2019 07:31

Did others get random creepy DMs too?

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/09/2019 07:31

(Other than GC I mean Smile)

littlbrowndog · 06/09/2019 07:38

I never got one

JessicaWakefieldSV · 06/09/2019 07:39

OccasionalKite

Agreed.

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/09/2019 07:54

Thanks Little

TheAlternativeTentacle · 06/09/2019 07:57

TOG is photographer.

TheAlternativeTentacle · 06/09/2019 07:57

That's what men who take photos of naked women call themselves.

GCAcademic · 06/09/2019 08:12

Every day’s a school day on here!

LangCleg · 06/09/2019 08:14

I repeat - other posters have said many times before - Mumsnet moderators really need to do the Freedom Programme.

I'll add my gazillionth post supporting this.

Last time I asked MichaelMumsnet said everyone had been trained in coercive control. This, I'm sorry to say, is not apparent.

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/09/2019 10:37

Help! Can someone please look at “what do you think of Spinster” and put me out of my misery... Has this Cervical cancer group really chosen a TW to be the face of their campaign? Shock

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/09/2019 10:38

Ps apologies to Germaine for this misuse of Bunbury.. didn’t want to depress everyone by starting a new thread Brew

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 06/09/2019 12:19

Last time I asked MichaelMumsnet said everyone had been trained in coercive control. This, I'm sorry to say, is not apparent.

A perfect example would be 2BoysandaCairn he had to tell a rape survivor that if they are nice to him he'd give to a rape charity, then blame them for him not donating for HQ actually to do anything.

Unless it matches the text book example HQ will do nothing.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 06/09/2019 12:28

A perfect example would be 2BoysandaCairn yes, I was suspended because I didn’t tolerate his disgusting behaviour and called him a name. It reminded me of when my father threw me out as a teen because I stood up to his bullying for once. I find the decisions sometimes to be bordering on gaslighting.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/09/2019 13:25

2BthatUnnoticed -
Help! Can someone please look at “what do you think of Spinster” and put me out of my misery... Has this Cervical cancer group really chosen a TW to be the face of their campaign?

I'm not sure what the context was for the screenshot on the other thread, but I took a look at that site - the obvious searches/menu choices get you to this:

https://www.cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/cancer-type/cervical/cervical-cancer/?region=on

It took a bit of hunting to find the image in your post and the text is different (maybe I've found a different page) but it seems like something tailored to trans women to make sure they know their neo whatevers may be susceptible to hpv.

http://www.cancer.ca/en/prevention-and-screening/reduce-cancer-risk/find-cancer-early/screening-in-lgbtq-communities/trans-women-and-cervical-cancer-screening/?region=on

So I think the answer to your question is no, they haven't. (I sincerely hope I'm right!)

littlbrowndog · 06/09/2019 13:38

There is one

littlbrowndog · 06/09/2019 13:42

Yeah it’s that one up there ☝️

There is a link on it for LGBTQ’s people

Then there is one for cervical cancer

The last one never mentions the word women

ErrolTheDragon · 06/09/2019 13:48

Not sure I'm with you. The main pages, the ones that are easy to find, are about women.
The second link doesn't mention women because it's specific to people who aren't women.

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/09/2019 15:15

Thanks for that Errol, your DD is better than mine! Smile incidentally I didn’t know you could get cervical cancer without a cervix but I’m not an HCP.

Taxi service is getting a lot of visitors.

Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 3.1