Yaniv has a period

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Need I say more

Loubot you will hear lot of negative comments about Mumsnet being transphobic but that isn’t the case. People on here are concerned about women’s rights & their right to have their own toilets & changing rooms & sport without including .
I would have no objections to the trans community campaigning for their own toilets to protect them from abuse.
The emergence of JYaniv has merely confirmed that allowing self ID is opening the door for predators to access female spaces.
I personally don’t believe that humans can change sex but live & let live.

I'm all for straight talking. I cannot stand pandering to delusion. My partner knows he is a biological Male whether he wants to be or not.

We were sat with out mouths open dumbstruck the other day over the thing where apparently lesbians are meant to like a penis if its attached to a trans person...

He was naked actually and at one point we were both looking at his penis like "but.. how?... lesbians?... HOW?"

I must say you’re a real breath of fresh air amongst the madness, Lou!

Wow Loubot, I hadn't thought of it from that perspective. for your partner and you.

Of course you are welcome here. We have a GC perspective but many of us have trans friends in real life, who also have the GC perspective.

I started my first period post partum today. Two years free! I feel sick that Y has been lying about something that actually has caused problems today and in the past. I'm not happy.

Hadn't read the full thread (naughty mumsnetter!) and yes it's great to read your posts Lou.

Re the lesbian thing, yes, quite. It would be worth you reading a few of the recent pride threads.

I hope you stick around Loubot.

for you partner Loubot, and wishing him a speedy recovery.

Thankyou so much. I will stick around. I feel loads better and silly that I assumed you would be unwelcoming.

JY thrives on any type of attention, good or bad.
Lou I'm sorry to hear your partner was assaulted, I hope they are recovering well .

The period lies from JY give me the creeps too warrior. Especially as I've been lying in bed with cramps due to ovulating and my coil (need to get it looks at. Its hurting during ovulation so wondering if my cervix has moved and dislodged it. My cervix used to drop so low that it would hurt to sit down like an electric shock through it. My friend saw it once and was nearly ringing me an ambulance by the time I stopped screaming).

It was a few weeks ago when it happened it's mainly the anxiety and nervousness from it now.
We are going to see a doctor about some councilling and maybe just go private because I dont think hes over that either.

Not that I'm expecting him to be btw. He tells.me he is but I dont think he is.

Welcome Loubot, it’s lovely to have you here.

We aren’t anti trans here, we are pro women.

Quim education not a company. Third space is an answer that works in our context anyway and it is acceptable so far to everybody. There is absolutely no way a 2 space solution would be accepted where I work, think more traditional values being pretty common due to location. And there would be massive and powerful push back if there was any attempt to do so but there has never been yet.

Lou I hope you and your partner get the support you need, I’m sorry your partner was hurt. Good luck with everything.

(Sorry that sounds really trite.)

I’m not saying anything. 😶

...Ok I can’t do it...

Has the world gone start racing mad? Have I slipped into the twighlight zone? What the hell is this person thinking a period is? Where do they use their tampons (and I assume they mean tampons as opposed to towels)? Why are we humouring this person?

But then I saw a video of their mum screaming like a banshee and giving the double finger at the person filming her. I’m really not sure who it was actually. It was the person who says they are the mum.

Loubot, now you know where the trans widows are, we're there if/ when you need an Escape Committee. We weren't all married to men like JY.

@Loubot you are so welcome here! Your post nearly made me cry because it's so great to hear from a voice from the genuine, lovely people within the trans community who see what damage the selfishness of JY does by claiming to speak for all of you.

We so desperately want you and my trans friends and all trans people not making life harder for each other by attention seeking instead of making insightful and helpful points that genuinely matter and make a difference to trans men and trans women.

Please keep talking here on Mumsnet - you have no idea how welcome you are!

@Loubot

*The thing with the toilet thing is, I think if a Male born person in distress (trans or not), who didnt feel safe in the mens, and was genuine and open and non threatening actually came into the womens toilets looking for some sort of escape and help from whatever has scared them, I dont know a single woman who wouldnt help a genuine person like that.

I dont see the exclusion part of it at all. I go in the mens if I'm desperate and cant find the womens. I did it several times last week because I had a kidney infection and it was that or pee my pants.*

Are you for real?

Eddy Izard uses the female toilets because he thinks he is going to get a hard time from men for wearing a dress. He can fuck off, him and any other men don't belong there. There's no reason to believe good old Eddy is a predator but he still doesn't belong in a female space.

You couldn't find a female toilet? In almost every single place I have been the male, female and disabled are situated together. How did the men like it when you walked in on them at the urinals.

We would probably just use the disabled toilets to be honest ourselves.

Does your partner have a disability that requires them to use the disabled toilet?
If not then they shouldn't use the disabled toilet. There aren't enough of them as there is, and disabled people's space shouldn't be sacrificed for an issue that has nothing to do with them.
Do you really think people helping themselves to disabled people's spaces is the solution? How is that right or fair?

Men should be campaigning to make men's spaces safer for men.

It's not women's fault that men are violent and aggressive.

The problem is Male.

A period is one thing, but if Yaniv dares put a comma after the word 'and' then there'll be hell to pay with Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Ginger - I'm not sure why you have suddenly began attacking me with the are you real stuff. I think.you have massively misunderstood my post. A big part of the toilet argument is that women who want women only spaces are excluding and enabling the abuse and attacks on other victims of predatory men.

I am saying it's a way to make women sound as though they would throw some youngster who's being harrassed back out into the street with their attacker, on the basis of the womens sign, rather than help that person get the correct help (ie ring the police for them).

It is making women responsible for the actions of predatory men instead of dealing with the predatory men causing people to want their own spaces. And it's easier to blame women and paint it as though its ONLY women causing this exclusion when in fact it's usually women trans or gay victims are going to seek out in public for help and I've yet to meet a single woman who's knocked one back and not at least tried to help by calling a relative or the police etc.

The same as me being Ill. No one said anything. I couldn't physically walk up the stairs to the womens (top level of the building). Mens are on the ground floor. It was that or piss myself all over the floor/seat. You could quite clearly see I was unwell by the fact I was bent over double and white as a sheet. My point is people will make exceptions for the exceptional and women are being painted as the ones excluding victims.

Divide and conquer.

Aw, come on to fuck. “Periods”. Really?!

Loubot I am sorry for what happened to your partner x

And I'm also not saying the solution is for women to share their spaces. Not at all.

Often when third spaces are suggested people like JY cry about how it's not the same. Genuine people who just want to not be harassed and also dont want to force their presence in the womens are left with the choice of holding it or using the disabled. And accused of stealing then too.

This all benefits men obviously. Because while we do this they're allowed to continue oppressing women and dont have to address the fact that the people who cause this are all Male.