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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Yaniv has a period

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unitednations · 12/08/2019 09:43

twitter.com/trustednerd/status/1160647670714601472?s=21

Need I say more

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Loubot · 12/08/2019 15:48

Thankyou Michelle. It really is wonderful to receive these comments andit's made me feel better after a few really horrible weeks.

Curious - I agree with you absolutely. It has to be warped to some extent. My partner knows it. We have talked through a lot of exactly what caused it. And we try to deal with the long term impacts of it as best we can.

We both do have identity issues. I have more than one personality. I think it's why I relate to a lot of how my partner presents. It isnt just dressing in womens clothes it's a mental shift.

I did assume for a long time he was the same as me because it was like mine when I'd switch. So it wasnt that much of a shock that it was another personality hed been hiding from me.

He didnt commit to me before telling me though. He did say he wasnt what I thought and kept telling me not to bother with him etc. I did most of the chasing and had every opportunity to walk away. He probably would have told me sooner but he was also being blackmailed by someone else hed confided in (which I've seen proof of because shes done it in front of me and we currently have yet another police complaint open against her).

Loubot · 12/08/2019 15:52

Headintheclouds I said trans or not. Usually younger people. There are more predatory men than people seem to realise and it's getting worse.

I've seen young men ringing their mum from the womens toilets because they think the men targeting them wont follow them in there.

This issue with predatory men needs addressing instead of foisting the responsibility of it onto who women want or dont want in toilets.

HeadintheiClouds · 12/08/2019 15:55

Oh, I see.

Loubot · 12/08/2019 15:57

I'll go as far as to say I think the easily solvable toilet issue is being used as a tool to make women appear shallow and exclusionary. Theres no other reason for it to drag on. Women need their own space. So do other sections of society. Women shouldnt lose out on what they have already and most of them would be inclined to help a genuinely threatened person seeking safety in any situation toilet based or not

Michelleoftheresistance · 12/08/2019 15:58

Yeah, naming and dealing effectively with male violence (and it's brother toxic masculinity) is another big concern around here.

QuimReaper · 12/08/2019 15:59

There's a blog post linked on that Twitter thread which has some screenshots of some extremely disturbing conversations between JY and someone else. I thought the Tweet looked parodic at first too, with the jaunty tone, but (caveat - if the screenshots are legit) it's clear this menstrual delusion is a deep-seated and long-running one. JY seems deeply preoccupied with adolescent girls and their toilet / changing room behaviour.

QuimReaper · 12/08/2019 16:00

easily solvable toilet issue

Out of interest, what do you think is the easy solution? There are lots which are easy in theory but not practical (third spaces, all toilets / changing facilities in individual lockable cubicle form) to roll out on a societal scale.

BertrandRussell · 12/08/2019 16:01

The screenshots are genuine.

Loubot · 12/08/2019 16:02

Oh and on the security guard thing, I think toilets in larger public areas should have some sort of button linked to whichever company is responsible for the site security. Most security companies offer services that would accomodate this.

Loubot · 12/08/2019 16:08

Quim I dont expect it to happen overnight. I think measures such as security buttons like I said should be introduced. Third spaces where possible.

I think the trans community could potentially fund it, the same way the jehovahs witnesses fund their blood cleaning machines in hospitals. Perhaps a charity to give Grant's to supporting companies for remodelling/adding toilet facilities.

It wont happen. People will continue to blame women for excluding everyone and having the audacity not to take responsibility for every one elses issues.

We would probably just use the disabled toilets to be honest ourselves. My partner isnt overly masculine but we are both tall. I'm not overly feminine and we would probably intimate a lot of women when we are dressed up (we have normal clothes, but we both have a big interest in cosplay separately from this as it is).
I use them anyway when my mental health is bad because of the switching thing and how it effects me and people start thinking I'm on speed or something.

Lazydaisies · 12/08/2019 16:08

Quim we have third space gender neutral where I work in every building, 5000 people + spaces. The trans issue is a very visible issue with particularly a lot of ftm mainly because the age profile I work with fits the rapid onset gender dysphoria. It seems to be working very well.

HeadintheiClouds · 12/08/2019 16:11

This is a personal question and I’m just being nosy, Loubot but are you both trans? Are you biologically female? You don’t have to answer.

Loubot · 12/08/2019 16:12

I do think expecting every last business to have it is unrealistic though. Some buildings simply cant accomodate it and shouldnt be seen as exclusionary.

Same way as the sir/maam thing and misgendering. People shouldnt be at risk of losing jobs for that stuff.

Again just more reasons people like JY are damaging really because they're things he would expect and causes to happen.

QuimReaper · 12/08/2019 16:13

Lazy that's good! Is it quite a wealthy company though? I'm thinking more of remodelling all school and leisure centre buildings etc.

Lou I completely agree on both counts - that it could be done, and that it would be a good LGBT fundraising cause (as it's so visible I'm sure lots would donate to a charitable effort) - and that it won't happen, because actual progress isn't the real agenda.

Bertrand I didn't for a second really doubt they were. Any idea who the person is speaking to? It looked like a private conversation, but the other conversant seemed sympathetic and unlikely to leak the screenshots.

Loubot · 12/08/2019 16:18

Headintheclouds I am biologically female and I dont mind questions at all

HeadintheiClouds · 12/08/2019 16:20

Thanks, Lou

Loubot · 12/08/2019 16:34

No problem. Thankyou for the positive comments. I will definitely stick around. I feel like we are just poking our heads out of the door after a snowstorm and cannot believe what we are seeing happening in the world we thought we knew.

I do believe by working through my own issues that my identity problems come from mainly Male driven exploitation and weaponising women against other women.

Loubot · 12/08/2019 16:42

Oops pressed enter too soon.

I think this is more of that and I dont think it will get any better soon. I feel like no matter what predatory men will find a way into any section of society that seeks solace away from them.

I've just been reading some of the trans widow threads and I wont comment there, but their descriptions could literally be the sorts I mentioned earlier. The AGPs.

We have a friend who visits us and who's main other two friends are a trans couple and has been active in the community for many years. And I mentioned some I'd come across on a website aswell. When I read the descriptions the trans widows give its these men that it brings to mind. I mentioned them at the time and he said that they're absolute jokers, pure fetishists and told us to stay away from them.

My partner then told me hed met one before. It was when he was swinging with his ex and was a group meet. And how he described this person was exactly how the trans widows are describing the men and their physical experiences with it.

That's when I started looking and reading a bit really. Because there is such a disconnect for me between these people, and my partner, my trans, cross dressing friends, people like me with identity issues.

It feels like weve been infiltrated as silly and dramatic as that sounds I cant describe this any other way since I started noticing and voicing these things.

picklemepopcorn · 12/08/2019 16:42

It's always good when someone unexpectedly finds Mn is welcoming! It's a straight talking place, but rarely deliberately offensive. Transphobia is always reported.

Thank you for sharing, Loubot.

HeadintheiClouds · 12/08/2019 16:46

It’s certainly interesting to hear it from the inside, so to speak.

Chalkmarkintherain · 12/08/2019 16:47

It is not women's responsibility to shelter people with penises in their bathroom, no matter how intimidated they feel in the men's room.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 12/08/2019 16:47

loubot welcome Flowers

Yaviv is indeed a nightmare to genuine people with gender dysphoria. I'm so cross he has been enabled to act the way he has.

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 12/08/2019 16:47

Hello Lou - just wanted to pop in to say thanks for sharing your perspective and please do stick around.

QuimReaper · 12/08/2019 16:48

Does your partner use the male pronoun Lou?

(As above, tell me to shove off if you don't feel like answering any more nosy posts! Smile )

Trohmaniac · 12/08/2019 16:49

Just going back to people upthread that they have some sympathy for Yaniv because he's mentally unwell.

I don't believe he has mental health issues at all. I think he's a predatory male who is a lot smarter than people give him credit for. There is tons of evidence of his predilection for underage girls and his period fetish (which ties in with the underage age girls) and he's blatantly using being trans as a way to get into changing rooms/pools/other places where he can be around underage girls while they undress and are vulnerable.

I have no sympathy for him and I think he needs locking up - in a men's prison, because he is a man - before he actually assaults someone.

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