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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Issues facing woman and girls worldwide

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Earlywalker · 10/08/2019 09:02

Thought it could be useful to raise awareness of issues facing woman and girls worldwide and discuss what we can do to help them.

Please do feel free to add to the list also as there will be loads that I’ve missed.

It made me very angry writing and researching this:

FGM - ‘the ritual cutting or removal of some or all of the external female genitalia. The practice is found in Africa, Asia and the Middle East, and within communities from countries in which FGM is common’

FGM is still practiced within the UK and is of course illegal here, we have only had one successful prosecution since it was made illegal and it was February this year - www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-47094707

Girls are encouraged to not tell anyone about it, awareness for the communities and those around them is the only way we can end FGM here. With wider efforts needed accords the globe.

Safe access to abortion - this is not just something that happens in third world countries, this is happening on our very doorstep in the UK! Northern Ireland has still not updated its abortion laws. Woman are being forced to continue pregnancies, even if they are raped, even if it was through incest and this needs to change.

Child brides - 140 million girls will become child brides between 2011 and 2020 . Girls who marry before age 18 are typically denied an education, at risk of complications related to premature childbearing, and more vulnerable to intimate partner violence.

Maternal health - The World Health Organization estimates that 800 women die every day from preventable, pregnancy related causes. That’s nearly 300,000 lives per year needlessly lost during what is fundamentally a life-creating event.

Sex based violence 1 in 3 woman Experience physical or sexual abuse in their lifetime. I’m not sure what more I can say on this than attitudes need to change.

Access to education A 2013 report by UNESCO found that 31 million girls of primary school age were not in school, and about one out of every four young women in developing countries had never completed their primary school education. That number represents a huge pool of untapped girl power: that same report suggests that educated women are more likely to get married later, survive childbirth, raise healthy kids, find work, and earn more money, among other positives.

Trafficking of woman and children This is the fastest growing crime in the world, it pulls in an estimated $99billion per year and there’s an estimated 25 million people trapped in forced labour, with an estimated 71% being woman and girls.

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2BthatUnnoticed · 11/08/2019 12:56

(I understand that girls who have experienced child sex abuse or rape have an increased likelihood of wishing to transition - I didn’t mean my last point to sound dismissive, more so querying.)

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 11/08/2019 13:25

Don't normalize prostitution, don't frame sex trafficking as a womens issue that women must solve. Not doing those things is a feminist action. Putting the responsibility where it belongs

Yes, if we’re applying feminist analysis here then trying to make women responsible for solving everything including men’s desire to rape women and children, most certainly isn’t feminism

Fraggling · 11/08/2019 13:37

Talking about these issues on mn is feminist action.

I joined when it was all green fields Grin there was no separate feminist board and dittany was on the scene.

She gave a name to the thoughts and views I had held since about 12. I learnt about things/ was able to name things I had no words for before.

Never underestimate the importance of language.

Posting on mn as a woman who puts women first is a feminist act.

The feminist and relationships boards are, always have been, hated by certain people, for these reasons.

Saying that mn is a place for right wing bigots, as an example, is only one in a long line of attempts to discredit mn and the women who post here esp in feminism also relationships.

Don't forget mn has been subject to ddos attacks and also in real life, Justine and Co were swatted. Those things were fine by mras.

Posting on mn in support of women is a political act in itself.

Never forget that.

@mnhq you are awesome and I can't thank you enough for the last 13 years of hosting all the conversations that you do, between almost exclusively women, from the mundane to otherwise. You're unique and I want to say thank you.

Fraggling · 11/08/2019 13:38

Were done but mras

That should say

I'm sure they were fine by them as well!

Fraggling · 11/08/2019 13:39

Were done by

Fucking Autocorrect

The impassioned thanks don't work so well with 14 corrections!

Earlywalker · 11/08/2019 13:59

Yes, because I dare to have an opinion that differs from the hive on MN, I have no right to talk about any issues facing women and girls.

Feminism is only for those that think like you.

Thanks for clarifying

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Earlywalker · 11/08/2019 14:01

Can’t bloody win. If I said what men should do I’d have been told not to talk about men. Talk about what woman can do and I’m making women responsible for everything Hmm

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sackrifice · 11/08/2019 14:02

Yes, because I dare to have an opinion that differs from the hive on MN, I have no right to talk about any issues facing women and girls.

It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it.

To be fair, how can you talk about issues facing women and girls when you, in your own opinion, include men and boys?

That is the fundamental flaw in your argument, and why people are not trusting that you are coming from a good place.

So, do you actually mean women and girls, or basically anyone who says they are women or girls?

Cascade220 · 11/08/2019 14:02

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RosesAndRaindrops · 11/08/2019 14:03

I don't get what OP is supposed to have done here.
I've seen her be told go start your own thread then about the topics that interest you, she does and then people don't like it? Confused

Earlywalker · 11/08/2019 14:03

I don’t include men and boys, the fact you think that shows you’ve never actually listened to what I’ve said. I’ve never said TWAW.

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barelove · 11/08/2019 14:09

Early I think you know that's not what's being said here. Of course you have a right to talk about issues that concern you. Feminism is for all women.

What is being clarified (to anyone new to MN fwr) is that due to your prolific history of derailing so many other threads with your particular style of repetitious nit picking and bizarre logic, it's understandable that the thread you have chosen to post yourself is now being looked at with suspicion and scrutiny. It's very sad but completely understandable.

Earlywalker · 11/08/2019 14:11

I’ve never argued against the fundamental basics.

Against the fact that TWANW, or that TW should compete in woman’s sport or prisons. I’ve never argued in favour of self ID.

You’ve made that assumption because I disagree with some of the things GC people say and do that I think step outside of the realms of being about women and girls.

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RosesAndRaindrops · 11/08/2019 14:13

But why when it was a perfectly reasonable OP?
Straight away piled in on spelling and trying to discredit?
I've said before you're just supposed to take this shit, and ignore it.
OP rightly hasn't done good for her but it's her nitpicking etc.
No. Just not taking people's shit for once.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 11/08/2019 14:13

Against the fact that TWANW, or that TW should compete in woman’s sport or prisons. I’ve never argued in favour of self ID.

Great. So we can all agree that transwomen are men & shouldn’t be using women’s spaces or identities? Because if we have that as a starting point it makes things much easier!

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 11/08/2019 14:13

If you’re going to start a new era of on topic posting Early I think that’s super

Star

Never too late to turn over a new leaf

You may have a bit of ground to make up though

Cohle · 11/08/2019 14:19

I think it's a shame that it's so hard to have a conversation about anything other than trans issues on FWR.

Posters who are apparently deeply concerned about being silenced and filibustered seem to have very little self-awareness (and that goes for both sides of the debate).

Cascade220 · 11/08/2019 14:21

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barelove · 11/08/2019 14:22

Early I've lurked on many threads and unfortunately, imo, you come across as a persistent derailer and antagoniser of intelligent debate. If I was to sum up my experience of your contributions to past threads I'd say you were unnecessarily argumentative and anti women a lot of the time. I'm obviously not the only one who's come to the same conclusion.

I'm sure there's way more to you and I'm open to see another side to you, but until then, I'll say it again - given your reputation here, it's completely understandable that you're not getting the support you'd like.

DejaVulva · 11/08/2019 14:23

I think it's a shame that it's so hard to have a conversation about anything other than trans issues on FWR.

This board is about feminism and women's rights .. that is what the acronym FWR means.

Genderist ideology adversely impacts on women's rights in many ways so, of course, that ideology and its various expressions are going to be the main topic of conversation here, surely?

Cascade220 · 11/08/2019 14:25

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Trohmaniac · 11/08/2019 14:27

I think it's a shame that it's so hard to have a conversation about anything other than trans issues on FWR.

I would say trans ideology is intrinsic and key to many discussion fo women's rights at this moment in time - if men can identify as women and the very meaning of the word 'woman' is being expanded to include such men, how do we tackle any of the risks women are facing on a daily basis?

The trans issue is part of women's rights at the moment - to deny this is insane.

Helmetbymidnight · 11/08/2019 14:27

Straight away piled in on spelling and trying to discredit?

i must reply to this, despite marguerite blue's obvious irritation. Grin

i have never seen an adult - with otherwise good spelling and an interest in 'womens' issues - consistently mis-spell the word women. 10 times?

never.

and then another poster - bespin - came along and did it too.

remarkable.

so as someone with an interest in words i am fascinated by this.

op has explained that they thought women was said the same as woman(?) and therefore spelt the same.

fair enough. now the op knows the difference which is good, right?