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Issues facing woman and girls worldwide

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Earlywalker · 10/08/2019 09:02

Thought it could be useful to raise awareness of issues facing woman and girls worldwide and discuss what we can do to help them.

Please do feel free to add to the list also as there will be loads that I’ve missed.

It made me very angry writing and researching this:

FGM - ‘the ritual cutting or removal of some or all of the external female genitalia. The practice is found in Africa, Asia and the Middle East, and within communities from countries in which FGM is common’

FGM is still practiced within the UK and is of course illegal here, we have only had one successful prosecution since it was made illegal and it was February this year - www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-47094707

Girls are encouraged to not tell anyone about it, awareness for the communities and those around them is the only way we can end FGM here. With wider efforts needed accords the globe.

Safe access to abortion - this is not just something that happens in third world countries, this is happening on our very doorstep in the UK! Northern Ireland has still not updated its abortion laws. Woman are being forced to continue pregnancies, even if they are raped, even if it was through incest and this needs to change.

Child brides - 140 million girls will become child brides between 2011 and 2020 . Girls who marry before age 18 are typically denied an education, at risk of complications related to premature childbearing, and more vulnerable to intimate partner violence.

Maternal health - The World Health Organization estimates that 800 women die every day from preventable, pregnancy related causes. That’s nearly 300,000 lives per year needlessly lost during what is fundamentally a life-creating event.

Sex based violence 1 in 3 woman Experience physical or sexual abuse in their lifetime. I’m not sure what more I can say on this than attitudes need to change.

Access to education A 2013 report by UNESCO found that 31 million girls of primary school age were not in school, and about one out of every four young women in developing countries had never completed their primary school education. That number represents a huge pool of untapped girl power: that same report suggests that educated women are more likely to get married later, survive childbirth, raise healthy kids, find work, and earn more money, among other positives.

Trafficking of woman and children This is the fastest growing crime in the world, it pulls in an estimated $99billion per year and there’s an estimated 25 million people trapped in forced labour, with an estimated 71% being woman and girls.

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2BthatUnnoticed · 11/08/2019 23:57

Not the point Bespin - I’m not talking about the words you use when talking to a young client.

But about the words you (general you) put out in the public domain. There is a huge problem with the police, press, everyone thinking that a 10yo can consent.

An org like Abianda needs to challenge that perception not contribute to it.

TheInebriati · 12/08/2019 00:00

No Bespin, you are ignoring the point. No one here is talking about confronting children or retraumatizing them.
Don't keep repeating the same argument as if it needs specialist knowledge to understand.

The charity is ignoring the fact that children do not consent to sex and they are using the language of consent, and that is a massive red flag.

2BthatUnnoticed · 12/08/2019 00:01

And of course young girls and women are trauma bonded to their abusers, of course they don’t want to bring criminal proceedings... we all know this (I assume).

The Twitter feed is for the public, not for clients - and that one T post (again, did they later refute it?) is minimising child rape. She was ten.

Bespin · 12/08/2019 00:02

truthisarevolutionaryact

So much that, there is so much that does need to be done and these young girls can not just be fixed in 3 or 6 months that LA seem to think can be done when they place them in secure or other childrens homes, this work will take years but there are few places that specialise in that work.

2BthatUnnoticed

if you know of any services or charity's that do this work you think are actually OK then please feel free to share them.

sackrifice · 12/08/2019 00:19

One of the things i am concerned about in relation to women and girls is the utter incapacity of people who gravitate towards 'helping' them, to understand basic safeguarding. And to not even understand what rape is.

2BthatUnnoticed · 12/08/2019 00:26

That is deflection, Bespin.

My comments are on their comms with the public, which helps mould public perception.

The public should not be told about ten year olds having sex, for whom “sexual encounters with older gang members became a way of life.”

The 10yo needs to be supported and respected too, of course, but that is a separate discussion

2BthatUnnoticed · 12/08/2019 00:28

Should have been *having sex” because of course it is wholly inaccurate.

A man raped that 10yo girl.

2BthatUnnoticed · 12/08/2019 00:29

Need to log off but in case I wasn’t clear:

The public needs to know this is child rape. Too many people don’t understand this.

Agrona · 12/08/2019 03:14

Earlywalker

Thank you for your very informative post about FGM. It raised many interesting issues which require thought.

Ereshkigal · 12/08/2019 08:32

One of the things i am concerned about in relation to women and girls is the utter incapacity of people who gravitate towards 'helping' them, to understand basic safeguarding. And to not even understand what rape is.

This.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 12/08/2019 08:52

Early, I’m confused.

You wrote that excellent post. You know what a woman is. You say you’re against self-ID, men in women’s prisons, etc.

So why do you spend so much time arguing against protecting our rights on the GC threads?

LangCleg · 12/08/2019 09:02

And once again Bespin shows an inability to recognise a massive red flag even when it waving two inches away from Bespin's nose.

For those reading in the hopes of finding useful campaigns and or charities: if an organisation involved in child protection uses the language of consensual sex rather than child rape to refer to CSE or CSA - this is a massive red flag. Children do not have sexual agency. Ignoring red flags like this leads to scandals such as we have seen at MESMAC, Oxfam and Save the Children.

If you see a charity doing this walk away, avoid. Dangerous work with children is not better than no work.

Earlywalker · 12/08/2019 09:07

I’ve explained up thread. I don’t argue against the fundamental basics. I argue if I disagree with someone/something and assess what is going on with an open mind.

I feel some posts/people/threads regarding trans issues are not for the benefit of women and girls and I disagree with some points.

If I get jumped on for disagreeing or not saying the same as everyone else (which I often do) then I’ll obviously defend my position.

I can separate the basics of being GC and the detriment to women and girls and individual posts/points and opinions.

I can and have agreed on many threads and have said this.

R.e FGM it all starts with awareness so I’m glad some of you find my post helpful Smile

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BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 12/08/2019 09:36

Read your post on FGM *Early
It was fantastic and really informative-thank you

NeurotrashWarrior · 12/08/2019 11:09

Posting on hop

V good series last week covering fgm and childbirth

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007bjd

NotYourCisterinAus · 04/09/2019 01:20

I'm bumping this thread with a petition from Freedom United against forced marriage:

www.freedomunited.org/advocate/stand-against-forced-marriage/

(The Mumsnet mods moved my original thread to the Petitions board, but I think it will get more traction on FWR.)

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