Telegraph column - not even attempting to hide AGP

[BretonDinosaur]

It’s behind a paywall, will post screenshots in next post

David Thomas is a 60 year old man, who according to his Telegraph column is still living as a man whatever that means. He is transitioning and he is writing about it in his weekly column. In the past he gave us Not Guilty: The Case in Defence of Men which is described as a rebuttal of feminist charges against men. So I think he’s established his misogyny credentials, which raises the question of why he wants to transition to emulate womanhood?

It’s so clear from the above article that it’s sexual arousal. He talks about his growing breasts in a clearly lascivious way. It’s not even gently disguised or denied. The AGP is front and centre in the article.

Yet we’re still not allowed to discuss it. We’re not allowed to point out that many men get off on the idea of being seen as a woman. They talk about it openly but the activists who seek to remove women’s rights shout us down as bigots for daring to raise it.

Those who are still championing the be nice/what harm can it do still seem to deny that it’s a driver. How? When it is this blatant how can it not be openly discussed and the risks/behaviours openly managed or challenged.

Revolting. The reference to adolescent girls is so, so wrong.
My opinion of the Telegraph has just nose dived.

He has 3 grown up children. Imagine reading this and this is what your dad is thinking about. I would be devestated if my dad wrote this.

Oh,yay.
I seem to have gone through peak trans and out the other side,because what I read here is someone who was unhappy with their body,and who is changing that body,being happy about how their body is changing.
I don't read inappropriate sexual feelings.What I read is how I felt when I lost weight and got some muscle definition.My body felt more like how I'd always wanted it to feel.

Infinite curve🤦‍♀️

Gosh I’d love the lenses you’re reading this story through, InfiniteCurve

Wow. Having your fetish validated in a main stream broadsheet, and being paid to do so. He must think it's Christmas.

I love the part where he apologises to women readers for mansplaining, then goes on to mansplain his wonky arse off for the rest of the article.

InfiniteCurve: I think there's a huge difference between looking to tone up your existing body, and taking pills to make it grow parts that belong to the other biological sex.

My pizza just came back up 🤮 I refused to read the actual article then someone copied and pasted that vile bit about girls breasts and wanking 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 Pass the bleach. And I the TORYGRAPH FFS!!!

Gross. What a creep.

Ugh. Middle aged cross dresser fetishises biology of teenage girl.

And a mainstream newspaper publishes it???

Autogynephilia, you woke wallies. Do some due diligence for fucks sake.

What next? My life as a 6 year old in a frilly dress???

That is vomit inducing
No woman ever got turned on by her own boobs jiggling etc, or anything other than vaguely annoyed by it.
If anything demonstrates this person is a man it's that.

It's like that episode of Red Dwarf when Arnold Rimmer accidentally gets boobs, and tells the computer there's no rush to fix him.

This is why we have stopped buying the Telegraph at the weekend (or rather why I have told DH not to buy it).

Teenage girls often become less active when their breasts develop because of the attention they get from the male sex, particularly when running. The contrast to this person delighting in running upstairs is somewhat startling.

Not to mention the PAIN. Growing breasts hurts.

Can people comment on The Telegraph articles, like they do in The Times? If so, I wonder what the comments are...

In a somewhat shocking development, Another, comments have not been switched on for this article. Seems the Torygraph is learning from the Guardian these days.

Isn't it every old mans dream to have a young fresh pair of breasts-for their own enjoyment-on their own chest!

Is this normal? NO

This is sick

I guess one good thing to come out of this is the realisation for some (many?) that so much of this is just costume and fetish for a group of largely white, middle aged fairly successful men. In contrast to those with genuine gender dysphoria who suffer huge emotional and psychological stress, and who would be mortified to discuss their genitals or other body parts in a newspaper.

It used to be some kind of gag for comics, didn't it? 'If I was a woman I'd never go out'.

How has this become legitimised as an experience to share in a mainstream newspaper?

Thank you for posting this OP. I've read his column before and felt really uncomfortable with the self obsession and obsession with his 'passing' and male gaze at his increasingly effeminate appearance.

One thing I would like to add as a side note, in the interests of wide reading and tolerance, it's not a bad thing to read/subscribe 'right wing' newspapers, nor is it bad to hold many views often shared in those papers. Many on these boards may disagree with them (often me included) but that didn't make them objectionable in principle.

Anyway, I do wonder what this column is 'for'. Who is it aimed at? This is the Telegraph so conservatives, sure, but slightly more men than women:
i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01863/Digital_Media_Pack_1863797a.pdf
Is it to demonstrate 'what a normal/relatable bloke he is'? What is it offering female readers (45ish% of readers) - non threatening nice person could be your husband?

Why does the telegraph think this will improve its circulation? To boost its socially liberal creds? (Has a couple of feminist columnists).

Don't have any answers here, but lots of questions.

It's the 'sensory shock' in the shower which is the biggest 'tell' of a man who has a sexual fetish writ large across the Telegraph's pages here (as if the running up stairs jiggling wasn't enough )

I'm trying to imagine a 60 year old woman writing in The Telegraph, eulogising about their clitoris enlarging as a result of 'T'.

a) I'm trying really hard, but strangely don't have any real-life examples to refer to in the media. Where are the 60-year-old women talking about googling pubescent boys' development and 'whoopsieing' when they realise their development is a bit different?

b) Tried rewriting from that perspective [caveat - a penis is not a clitoris, and can never grow from one!] There's something weird about a 60 year old man who looks down and sees the of a penis of an adolescent boy developing on their body....I think my new penis is pretty, it's small but isn't too wonky, and I like how it it feels. I seek out stairs to jump up two by two, I come down fast too, but that's a whole different experience when I have to clamp by hand to my crotch to stop the jiggling.

Reader. I stopped there. With the word 'jiggling'.

David - kudos to you. You've hoodwinked The Daily Telegraph into indulging your extreme jiggling breast fetish.

One thing I would like to add as a side note, in the interests of wide reading and tolerance, it's not a bad thing to read/subscribe 'right wing' newspapers, nor is it bad to hold many views often shared in those papers. Many on these boards may disagree with them (often me included) but that didn't make them objectionable in principle

Of course, Wine. I was making a tongue-in-cheek comment. I have increasingly come to understand that all news is opinion - nothing is presented in an entirely neutral way.

I am actually slightly boggled about this being behind the paywall. Not all of the Telegraph’s articles are. Why this one? Because they hope people want to see the full pervy glory of this story after reading the snippet so they make money? Or do they think this is the kind of stuff their subscribers - stale, male and pale - want to read?

Breton To think I've whinged about the slow speed of comments being moderated and approved in The Times... At least it allows comments!