Women don't have penises

[jellybean85]

Just in service station and it seems the word is spreading! See next comment for pic

So if TWAW, can I be a TW?

Some would have us go back to Victorian times when there were no public loos for women which led to women not roaming too far from home

You're just saying exactly what I've said again! I'm honestly getting embarrassed on your behalf now.

Nope I see the argument is that he would be committing an offence if he refuses to leave if asked.

Thanks jacky.

No, there's no conspiracy to send us back to Victorian times.

WTF

This is just like anti-vax rubbish.

Hope Lye, a TW who has been using male toilets for years, says he (his self description) has never been assaulted whenever he's been out, whether in his home town, Manchester, B'ham, London or anywhere else, he uses the male loos to urinate, so the TRA argument that they need access to women's loos is bullshit.

Yes, you would be in trouble with the police for being on private property when you'd been asked to leave. But of being in a toilet, no there is no such offence.

NOpe but bothering someone is not the same as being in a female only space. Saying He’s bothering me .... it’s a judgment call ..saying.he’s in the ladies,.,it’s a clear infringement of rights

Toilet =sex segregated Space . That’s why we have the labels on the doors. So it would be an offence but nothing to do with private property and everything to do with equalities act.

No, there's no law that says it's a criminal offence to be in a woman's toilet. There just isn't. Anyone can be asked to leave. You can be thrown out of a pub for using the men's. It doesn't mean you've committed a crime or that the men in the toilet could have you prosecuted.

These threads are gold for the lurkers. Posters like PetrolBastard perhaps don't realise how much they further anti-TRA attitudes with their absolute nonsensical bollocks.

And if wtfmen have penisz, then they can use the restrooms catering to penis owners.

I could say the same about you. Some of the stuff posted on this thread is way out there.

who are you talking to petrol? You seem to be aserting that things people are not saying are what is be8ng said and then getting hot under the collar?

Is PB still hung up on loos?

Still straw Dollying away about things only PB has said?

Ah well! Visibility is all.. and that is most definitely a highly visible hopeless case!

Yeah, way out there to say women don't have penises and that sex segregated spaces are legislated for under the Equalities Act. Far out, man. Far out.

I think most people will only read the first 4 pages, and they should. For one thing, it shows which side look like a bunch of anti vaxxer flat earthers.
And its not the people saying sex matters, convicted rapists shouldn't be in womens prisons, and women don't have a penis.

I don't think anyone's argued that a man setting foot in a toilet or other facility designated for women is automatically committing a criminal offence, Petrol, although you seem very happy to argue with yourself about that one!

The points made are:

1. he has no right to be there & can be removed
2. indeed, the person in charge has an obligation to ensure that he is removed if a woman objects
3. this situation can then develop into a criminal, arrestable offence if the man in the women's facility either commits an illegal act such as indecent exposure OR escalates his inappropriate behaviour when being lawfully removed
4. the man is absolutely behaving inappropriately & in a manner that women could reasonably object to. He should campaign for better provision for men like himself who do not wish to use the men's facilities OR vote with his feet & go somewhere where such provision is in place
5. none of this is the problem of women lawfully using single sex facilities; we don't have to budge up or worry about the menz.

I know you've done quite a successful derail banging on re toilets here, but I think it's worth pointing out that these same principles apply to ALL women's spaces.

No, there's no law that says it's a criminal offence to be in a woman's toilet. There just isn't. Anyone can be asked to leave. You can be thrown out of a pub for using the men's. It doesn't mean you've committed a crime or that the men in the toilet could have you prosecuted

Petrol, why do you persist in ignoring the difference between UK Criminal law and UK Civil Law?

UK Civil Law is clear, no male should ever be in any spaces or service, sport or advancement scheme etc that is designated for females.

If such a breach of this position occurs the legal liability lies with the provider of such services.

So it is for the managers of facilities designated for females to ensure that no males, regardless of how they choose to present themselves, cannot and should not access the facilities they have designated for females.

In the case of any interactions between females and males in such facilities, the most likely Criminal Law that could apply is the Sexual Offences Act 2003. if an incidence of voyeurism, indecent exposure, sexual assault or rape occurs.

Petrol, if the proprietor / manager of such a business serving the public becomes subject to a breach of the Equality Act 2010 on the grounds of a breach of the single sex service provisions, the worst that would happen to any male who had violated the female boundary is to be permanently barred from the premises, at the proprietor / manager's discretion.

Why are you repeating the same thing again?

Why are you repeating the same thing again?

Simply because it seems you have not yet understood it.

I understand it perfectly. Stop embarrassing yourself. You don't have a point.

You're literally saying exactly what I've said as if it's something different. It's not.