Women don't have penises

[jellybean85]

Just in service station and it seems the word is spreading! See next comment for pic

The magic roundabout is a good answer, but it's not the right one. This person needs a wee. They've never committed a violent sex crime. They work in an office. They're having a drink with their friends after work in the pub and they need a wee. There are two options. Where do they go?

Provision can easily be made.

We live in a patriarchy for heavens sake.

I'm sure the men, however they identify can find a solution to accommodate each other, that doesn't negatively impact the dignity, safety and privacy of half the population.

Everywhere you go at the moment, toilets are becoming mixed sex. All you have to do is change the quantity. Men's, women's, and mixed. Job done.

It's a piece of piss.

This is a small pub. There are only two toilets. There isn't time to build another, as our person here needs a wee now. Where do they go?

People have said quite explicitly that they should use the men's or a third space. So drop the faux innocence.

Seriously, petrol. You are arguing like child.

We don't make laws based on the people who won't break them. We make laws based on the people who will.

You can come up with as many fictitious little old transladies as you like. It's a nonsense argument. Karen White is the reality of what's happening to women.

More than happy for transgender people to have their own space but this should not be at women's expense.
Transgender nowadays does not just mean someone who feels they are in the wrong body and who has had all the operations took all the hormones.
It also includes
Cross dressers (typically heterosexual men or women who wear clothes of the opposite sex);
Transvestic fetishist (usually heterosexual men or women who wear clothes of the opposite sex for purposes of an emotional high or sexual arousal);
Drag Queens and Kings (those who dress as the opposite sex for performance purposes)

They can pee in the mens. How many times does it need to be said?

This person needs a wee. They've never committed a violent sex crime. They work in an office how nice for them.

See previous posts about TRA actions and transwomen being the losers because of it!

Get your head aorund the fcat that we won't acquiesce to your lies and made up scenarios either! We are adults, adulting!

"Ooh Datun you said all TW are rapists! I'm telling on you!"

It seems to me that Petrol has zero understanding of UK law here.

Petrol, have a read of the Equality Act 2010, Schedule 3,

section 26 [separate services for the sexes],

section 27 [single sex services] and

section 28 [gender reassignment]

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/schedule/3

It is very explicit that the law gives precedence to sex in all circumstances rather than gender reassignment.

It's not even as though petrol is unique. This is the level of coherence in the demand for validation.

No, I'm not at all unique. Most people wouldn't expect that person to go in the men's, as you well know.

I think that rather depends on whether our hypothetical person is sans or avec penis.

Love you to point to a source which suggests otherwise.

Most people wouldn't expect that person to go in the men's, as you well know.

Why?

And your reason for looking in their underwear is?

Hypothetical underwear...

LOL

Bait and switch, move away from the argument you'll lose, straw man. You'll go far!

I hope there's a second bottle of Perry on the table. Or advocaat perhaps.

Petrol needs to understand this clause from Schedule 3 section 27 [single sex services]

(6) The condition is that—

(a) the service is provided for, or is likely to be used by, two or more persons at the same time, and

(b) the circumstances are such that a person of one sex might reasonably object to the presence of a person of the opposite sex.

This means that where communal toilet, washing, showering, changing facilities etc are provided for one sex, if a person of the opposite sex enters the sex for which the facility is intended has the legal right to object and have the person of the opposite sex removed. Possession of a GRC does not change this legal right.

No, this is entirely the point. Why do you need to know what is in someone's underwear when they use the same bathroom as you? In what circumstances would you even be looking?

ver and over and over and over and over,
Like a monkey with a miniature cymbal,
The joy or repetition really is in you...

Nobody is this obtuse, surely?

In what circumstances would you even be looking?

What, when I'm "having a wizz?"