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Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)

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Whackitupto200 · 08/07/2019 09:27

JY’s parent sounds like an absolute loon. It would explain a lot.

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 15/07/2019 23:25

It's about power over women.

BitOfFun · 16/07/2019 06:31

Well this is worrying...Judge in serious conflict of interest. Unbelievable.

GirlDownUnder · 16/07/2019 07:20

Yep BOF, I feel horrified for the women involved in this through no fault of their own. It doesn't seem exactly impartial.

And that JY is allowed to 'cross examine' his victims is just sick.

IStillMissBlockbuster · 16/07/2019 07:33

Oh great.

GirlDownUnder · 16/07/2019 07:35

And in other JY news, he's managed to get another GC voice suspended from twitter.

Lindsay Shepherd is a Canadian columnist and a free-speech activist. She was vocal about self ID and about the current** JY BCHRT complaint.

From JY themselves mobile.twitter.com/trustednerd/status/1150845878464200706

terfsandwich · 16/07/2019 07:36

Is Devyn the woman in the picture? So confused!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/07/2019 07:37

@GirlDownUnder to be honest the comments under the post is rather heartening.

GirlDownUnder · 16/07/2019 07:40

I know right LordProfFekko Grin

I just can't fathom why JY is doubling down so hard. It's seems counterintuitive.

GirlDownUnder · 16/07/2019 07:46

terf I can't load a pic of Devyn Cousineau - I've reached my limit Shock

Try googling her name and going to images. It might help make sense, cos I can't see her pic in anything posted so far.

boatyardblues · 16/07/2019 08:45

Interesting to see how little support JY is getting on Twitter from the trans sisterhood. It would suggest that JY has become a liability for the cause and that anyone with any awareness is backing away.

ahumanfemale · 16/07/2019 10:18

Interesting to see how little support JY is getting on Twitter from the trans sisterhood. It would suggest that JY has become a liability for the cause and that anyone with any awareness is backing away.
That has been quite refreshing to see..except while JY is clearly extreme, activists are ignoring the fact that the system they are pushing for enables exactly the type of person JY is - and there are others who are just not as vocal as JY. Distancing themselves from JY allows them to say "JY is not one of us" but JY definitely IS one of them, because that's exactly the problem with both self ID and saying gender dysphoria has nothing to do with being trans/is transphobic.

As for JY, their move into trans has been led by the advantages it brings JY's fetish. I'm expecting the next to be continuing with being trans and pushing in women's spaces, even jail or a refuge, both using the victim card somehow, or "detransitioning" (inverted commas because you can't transition out of something you're not) and joining the incell ranks again. But my bets are on the former.

Cookieflavoredbiscuit · 16/07/2019 13:54

except while JY is clearly extreme, activists are ignoring the fact that the system they are pushing for enables exactly the type of person JY is

Or, of course, blaming women....

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)
MaeWest1891 · 16/07/2019 14:50

Hi, new here and not having read all the 600 odd posts so I apologise if my point has been made already.

Is the lawyer able to argue that JY is not actually a women as a matter of fact?

Could Defendant / Lawyer not challenge the actual Transgender Ideology?

You know because of you know – actual science?

Even if they were not allowed to make this case for technical legal reasons – It would be nice if they could make a statement for the record that the Lawyer / Defendants do not accept the whole Transgender Ideology.

Before Women and Blacks got legal rights were Lawyers able to make statements for the record in Courts / Hearings that this was wrong.

I can not believe that in 2019 – we are in the same moral positions as those times again.

nauticant · 16/07/2019 15:00

Is the lawyer able to argue that JY is not actually a women as a matter of fact? - That's akin to heresy in Canada and could damage the cases of the women. The safest way to do it is to lay out all the evidence that it's bloody obvious he's a bloke but without saying it.

Could Defendant / Lawyer not challenge the actual Transgender Ideology? - See above.

You know because of you know – actual science? - At the moment science is very unfashionable in some quarters and a quasi religious ideology is much preferred.

Even if they were not allowed to make this case for technical legal reasons – It would be nice if they could make a statement for the record that the Lawyer / Defendants do not accept the whole Transgender Ideology. - See first answer above.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/07/2019 15:10

Naked court. That's what they need there.

Michelleoftheresistance · 16/07/2019 17:03

You missed the bit on day 1 where the judge was trying to figure out how to deal with someone obviously and openly male up until a couple of years ago insisting in court that they had periods, in terms of establishing the genitals the complainant actually had. Since it was obvious and inescapable that the content of these genitals actually had to be established for the case.

Still hasn't been an answer to that one.

There's a point at which it gets so silly it's baffling that actual grown ups are spending huge amounts of time, effort and worse tax payer funding on this absolute bullshit. And it makes you think, worryingly, our society and many people in it have way too much time on their hands and not nearly enough important things in their lives to think about.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/07/2019 17:09

At what stage can the judge stop this and call in the psychologist for an assessment?

TurboTeddy · 16/07/2019 17:10

This YouTuber has made a couple of videos relating to JY. This video has been released today, how long it stays up remains to be seen. There are already over a thousand comments so despite the lack of reporting there are many people taking an interest.

Michelleoftheresistance · 16/07/2019 17:13

Just read about the Judge's conflict of interest... bloody hell Canada Govt, are your damage limitation/PR people asleep at the wheel?! Better warn your insurers too that there's a fuckton of compensation payments headed their way: these women's lawyers are being handed Christmas on a plate.

In fact at this point I'm starting to hope they let the farce get all the way to the end so we get to see the women's lawyers then take all this to (proper) court for harassment, distressed caused in proceedings with a judge with conflict of interest and behaviour during those proceedings.... bring it on. Let's do it in the full glare of the world's media. Hopefully that poor disabled, struggling, working class woman who was sobbing and humiliated in the dock the other day ends up with enough of a payout she doesn't need to work again.

miri1985 · 16/07/2019 18:20

Elsie posted an update, I didn't think the next hearing was until tomorrow but shes apparently at one currently

"At another JY vs. Waxing Ladies BCHRT hearing today. Will tweet later if possible - going offline now."

CoolCarrie · 16/07/2019 20:42

I am seriously worried that this case is going to go the wrong way, and that pervert is going to succeed. Wtf can we do?

terfsandwich · 16/07/2019 21:16

Oh, I just read about Cousineau's judgment about Oger.
Definitely should have reused herself from this case. Someone so mired in transgender ideology will find it impossible to go against JY, or she'll lose all her friends and face the dunking stool on Twitter.

terfsandwich · 16/07/2019 21:17

*recused

RiotAndAlarum · 16/07/2019 21:18

I am seriously worried that this case is going to go the wrong way, and that pervert is going to succeed. Wtf can we do?

I'm planning to #peaktrans a male Sikh friend (in the UK, but, you know, IDENTITY POLITICS crosses borders) with this. Bit by bit, we can spread the word about how dysfunctional gender ideology is. The more people see the perverse and unintended by sensible people consequences are, the better.

BickerinBrattle · 16/07/2019 21:20

Shame the Canadian government throughout the world as a sexual predator mandating legal sexual assault on working women.

I'd contribute to any crowdfunder purchasing any kind of publicity of that fact, including flying banners behind private airplanes at every Canadian sporting event.

And of course well to any legal case doing as Michelle suggests.