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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police called to National Theatre to deal with gender critical feminists sitting on chairs

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/07/2019 17:53

twitter.com/DadRogd/status/1147181198231429124 has picture of the unfortunate police officer sent to investigate.

Earlier in his tweet thread he says:

National Theatre Green Room bar just refused to serve us. Their grounds? Allegedly, we are a political group with views a member of staff finds offensive. So they offend a dozen customers instead.

Problem is apparently with t-shirt worn by Anne Ruzylo sporting a dictionary definition of a lesbian. As someone else has pointed out the NT is in breach of the Equality Act, given that sexual orientation and sex are both protected characteristics. I wonder how this will play out.

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nauticant · 10/07/2019 23:02

Add that to the million things Coren writes about that he's clueless about.

I get the feeling he is permanently grinding his teeth over having a fraction of the intelligence, talent, and charm of his Dad.

FormerMediocreMale · 10/07/2019 23:14

Corens article is trivializing the situation but to most people not knowing much about what's happening I think they would hold more sympathybtowards the lesbians that were thrown out. It gets across that lesbians are having to define themselves, also that men are now identifying as lesbians - to most people this would be a home. That the lesbian customers are thrown out due to a staff member having a different opinion - to most people this would be 'silly', customers and staff can't be expected to have the same opinions but customers should still be served.

FormerMediocreMale · 10/07/2019 23:41

How does joke autocorrect to home!

Staffori · 11/07/2019 00:41

The less mainstream coverage, the better methinks. The National Theatre is a national institution and, as a theatre, it's bound to be seen as liberal. That's what the NT reps are banking on as they double down on the lies. The problem is that people are bound to fall for them. I've seen it on Twitter. 'The NT wouldn't throw lesbians out for no reason' and they believe the NT over the people who were thrown out.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 11/07/2019 06:23

it's a flip article, but it gets across the main point, that the women were being clear about their sexual boundaries, and that got them chucked out

I think the more mainstream coverage the better. it embarrasses the NT

ChattyLion · 11/07/2019 07:50

As I read it is Coren is dismissing the women as ‘sad ugly miserable pointless and silly’? Or using that to describe the debacle of a disagreement between such people?

Either way Giles Coren is a massive bellend for trivialising a freedom of speech issue and should be ashamed of himself.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 11/07/2019 07:51

Not a fan.

nauticant · 11/07/2019 07:56

As I read it is Coren is dismissing the women as ‘sad ugly miserable pointless and silly’? Or using that to describe the debacle of a disagreement between such people?

It can be read either way. And I think that was deliberate meaning that if he's challenged he can switch his interpretation so deflect criticism.

dianebrewster · 11/07/2019 07:57

He's being sarcastic, I read it as totally pro the women and mocking the NT.

citykat · 11/07/2019 08:05

I read it as pro too; the use of "" around certain terms but not others to me suggests this.

HeronLanyon · 11/07/2019 08:28

I read it as pro and then right at the end he tried to slightly have it both ways. Overall pro.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 11/07/2019 08:32

I’m going to hazard a wee guess that Mrs Coren has peak transed.

OvaHere · 11/07/2019 08:39

I think maybe it was an attempt at being pro women with a humorous slant but overall it came across a bit flippant and not that unlike the blokes who cheer on 'the feminazi vs trans' as some kind of spectator sport.

lucasthecat · 11/07/2019 09:50

Coren is 100% pro the lesbians who were thrown out - the language and the facts make it impossible to read it any other unless you deliberately want to deny logic and facts - which is funnily enough what certain groups want us all to do - his style is always sarcastic and sharp unlike his dad who was warm and lovely - I cant imagine his sister being anything other than GC

BeyondDangerousTshirts · 11/07/2019 09:57

Surely his style is a bit flippant anyway? I'd imagine that had the comment not been, it wouldn't have been published?

Shining light (there's no way the comment can be interpreted as anti really, is there?) in the best way he can? His wife is on mn, isn't she?

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 11/07/2019 09:58

I also read it as pro. I don't know if it's enough to turn someone clueless about this into a feminist ally, but it's something.

Justhadathought · 11/07/2019 10:06

The article is typical Giles Coren style. It reflects quite well the sort of commentators that you get trolling many times articles too. Flippant, dismissive, 'competitive' humour . I rarely look at his columns. Too formulaic.

Datun · 11/07/2019 11:54

He's shining light on the concept that activists want to legitimise the 'male lesbian' and that actual lesbians are getting pissed off about it.

Men claiming they are lesbians has been a time honoured joke. Legitimising it and pressuring actual lesbians, is a different kettle of fish altogether.

And I'm fairly certain the public would take a dim view of the entire concept.

AnotherNightWatering · 11/07/2019 13:38

The interesting thing is, the article was published on Tuesday. There are a lot of Times subscribers here, but none of us noticed until citykat posted the clipping from the paper edition almost two days later!

Therefore, none of us are natural readers of his column! Otherwise, we'd have noticed sooner... Grin

loveyouradvice · 11/07/2019 15:56

Why has nothing more happened?

I agree that Daily Mail was positive... but why is no one calling out the NT for fabricating evidence - or at least not producing it so journalists know it is valid?

And is there going to be a crowdfunded? I am another who will step up and give a three figure sum for something so important

Birdsfoottrefoil · 11/07/2019 17:38

Does there need to be a crowdfunded? The guy who sued Brewdog did it via small claims court. Couldn’t all the women refused service do the same? £1000 each adds up.

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