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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police called to National Theatre to deal with gender critical feminists sitting on chairs

596 replies

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/07/2019 17:53

twitter.com/DadRogd/status/1147181198231429124 has picture of the unfortunate police officer sent to investigate.

Earlier in his tweet thread he says:

National Theatre Green Room bar just refused to serve us. Their grounds? Allegedly, we are a political group with views a member of staff finds offensive. So they offend a dozen customers instead.

Problem is apparently with t-shirt worn by Anne Ruzylo sporting a dictionary definition of a lesbian. As someone else has pointed out the NT is in breach of the Equality Act, given that sexual orientation and sex are both protected characteristics. I wonder how this will play out.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/07/2019 13:25

'Prove it and back up your claims or be prepared to apologise and backtrack. Also please explain how the assertion that biology is a state of fact can reasonably deemed 'offensive'. I assume your staff will be getting additional training.'

Datun · 09/07/2019 13:33

Tell them that multiple films of the event show the exact opposite. Including discussions with a policeman.

Ask if, when they say placards, they mean a T-shirt?

Datun · 09/07/2019 13:34

You could also confirm that if the same women came back today or tomorrow wearing the same T-shirts, would they be served?

BatShite · 09/07/2019 13:38

Still going with the placard thing then..badly advised, or just hoping they can brazen it out?

Datun · 09/07/2019 13:49

These began with their refusal to put placards out of sight that featured messages which upset other customers and contravened our visiting policy,

This need clarification. What messages? What's the policy?

nauticant · 09/07/2019 13:55

Just to check I'm remembering correctly, but is the NT saying there was abusive behaviour towards our staff but also decided the "abusive" people could stay?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 09/07/2019 14:15

I think the question about ‘ok, it wasn’t the t-shirt, can I wear my lesbian definition t-shirt to the NT and get served?’ is a good way to approach it

BeyondDangerousTshirts · 09/07/2019 14:18

I'm fairly sure that someone somewhere is confused between "placards" and "slogans". Surely? With footage out there (and no counter footage showing the offensive item), doubling down seems extra stupid.

Oh no, wait - I forgot how stupid people can actually be!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/07/2019 14:19

I've seen bar staff groped, threatened, pinched, sworn at and called allsorts (not all on the same night) but not ejected from the establishment.

They must be an aye delicate bunch at the HT bar. I hope they never have balloons in there (one might pop and cause a mass heart-attack among staff).

BeyondDangerousTshirts · 09/07/2019 14:19

Bernard - good idea! Especially if said lesbian woman also wasn't involved with the protest last year (as that is also a reason for refusal that's also been floated)

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 09/07/2019 14:23

Well I think the t-shirt wearer should if asked say they were part of get the L out

Since that is totally not why service was refused. I mean that would be like refusing to serve someone you knew was a remainer solely for that reason (or a brexiteer, or a Scottish indie type, etc)

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 09/07/2019 14:25

The only reason service was refused was their refusal to put away the invisible placards and their abusive behaviour, right?

SadlyMissTaken · 09/07/2019 14:27

Is Anne taking legal action? Give the doubling down and failure to apologise as well as the further defamation of the group I think that's the only possible way forward.

BeyondDangerousTshirts · 09/07/2019 14:44

How about two women - one part of the former protest, and one who wasn't. See if one, both or neither are ejected?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/07/2019 14:46

Invisible placards eh. sounds like a job for (the late) Marcel Marceau. Can we get a flash mob of mimes to go over?

nauticant · 09/07/2019 14:58

How do you know the group weren't already identifying as mimes?

BeyondDangerousTshirts · 09/07/2019 15:20

If they were, I take back all support - mines deserve to be thrown out. Grin

BeyondDangerousTshirts · 09/07/2019 15:20

MIMES ffs

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/07/2019 15:41

Mimes scare me.

I once met Marcel Marceau (he was in a hotel and a friend spotted him and just had to go and speak to him - in her defence, she is French).

I just smiled and waved, he seemed to appreciate my performance skills, but in reality he was just freaking me out (they are more knowing, clowns - if you ask me).

EmpressLesbianInChair · 09/07/2019 16:55

Maybe it's just as well the circus performance outside the WPUK meeting's been called off.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/07/2019 16:57

Thank god. I would have had the rage if I’d seen them.

I was traumatised by seeing the poor wee dogs tied (or nailed, I’m not sure) onto sheep and made to run in circles as they clung on for dear life at french circuses when I was a child.

tobee · 09/07/2019 19:37

Hi it's me again. Just testing the waters.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/07/2019 19:46

Why what happened before?

tobee · 09/07/2019 19:49

Well people disagreed with me. And I was worried I'd pissed too many people off. I've been on here a while now. And always defended the board.

tobee · 09/07/2019 19:50

And still do btw Smile

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