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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Drag Queen story time and The National Gallery

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NellieEllie · 25/06/2019 22:50

Just spotted this. 30th June. The “gender fluidity of childhood”. Giving children “queer role models”. Good Grief. www.nationalgallery.org.uk/events/drag-queen-story-time-30-06-2019

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nettie434 · 07/08/2019 01:46

Yes! I feel like a dreadful throwback but what exactly was wrong with the old style National Gallery tours where children hunted for objects in paintings or drew their own versions of them?

Surely they can come up with a more original idea than drag story time?

2BthatUnnoticed · 07/08/2019 02:40

Just no. No.

That twerking tutorial- gross. Adults asking kids to DM their email address?? NO. Make the colouring page available on the library website FFS.

No mum I know (including me) would have her child stay for any of this.

Libraries, you are being groomed. You are normalising dodgy behaviour. Even if these individuals are perfectly harmless - the behaviour they are normalising is not. Eg - they are making it easier for the next adult to ask children to DM them.

2BthatUnnoticed · 07/08/2019 02:41

Oops bold fail

KatvonHostileExtremist · 07/08/2019 07:30

I wonder if the drag queen has been organised centrally by the summer reading scheme providers? I think libraries buy in.

He's certainly got more dates coming up around the country, in libraries, as part of the scheme. I suppose (And I'm reaching here) there's a certain otherworldly ness about him. Not sure about the space link. Guess he's cheap?? I'm not condoning, I'm trying to work out any reason other than woke twattery. It's just woke twattery isn't it?

It's the twerking bit that gets me the most. And the fact that people without families have turned up to the launch of a summer reading scheme to watch a drag queen. That's just weird. You don't go to kiddies events without a kiddie. Least not in my book 👀👀👀👀👀

KatvonHostileExtremist · 07/08/2019 07:43

readingagency.org.uk/children/quick-guides/summer-reading-challenge/

The reading agency coordinate the scheme across the country (And a great scheme it is)

I can't see any suggested events / performers, so maybe this guy just picked up the theme and offered himself out to libraries?

Twerking...... I bet he never mentioned that.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 07/08/2019 09:45

I wonder if the drag queen has been organised centrally by the summer reading scheme providers?

No, I can assure you that is not the case. The particular library services have taken it upon themselves to hire this utterly unsuitable man with a massive neon red flag on his head. It is on them, not the Reading Agency.

(I work in library services)

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 10:25

I would totally take my children to this. and I have had friends in the US attend drag story times.
To kids, its no different to dress up pantomime and I would hope starts teaching children to be accepting of all different types of people.

Bezalelle · 07/08/2019 10:35

To kids, its no different to dress up pantomime

Yes, and I'm sure to some kids, a minstrel show would just look like a pantomime. It's not, though. And drag is "womanface". Why teach children that it's fine to mock women?

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 07/08/2019 10:38

I don't want children to learn to be accepting of all different types of people. I want them to learn that some people are to be avoided and understand what behaviours indicate dangerous people. Like, for example, strangers who ask them to send private messages online.

SingingLily · 07/08/2019 10:46

Let me see if I've understood this correctly. Adult - sorry, men - dressing up in exaggerated make up and frilly, spangly, glittery clothing to entertain confused - sorry, in some cases, visibly frightened - children in a safe child-friendly setting - sorry, library - accompanied by their protective - sorry, cheering and applauding - parents.

Well, that will teach the kids all they need to know about setting safe boundaries, won't it?

And who in their right mind would want a fresh new generation of confused children without boundaries?

NotBadConsidering · 07/08/2019 10:46

To kids, its no different to dress up pantomime

But it’s not is it? They come away with messages like this:

“I liked it. I like butterflies, and she was spreading that you don’t have to be a girl to do boy things, you can be transgender,” said Lucia McCulloch, 8

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/are-you-sitting-uncomfortably-drag-queen-story-hour-for-children-horrifies-us-right-tp0wmcxwk?shareToken=f063b0721e0aee3b164af7da0ec000c4

bettybeans · 07/08/2019 11:16

Butters in what other circumstances would you think it appropriate for a man to teach little kids how to perform a highly sexualised dance?

truthisarevolutionaryact · 07/08/2019 11:23

Butters83
"teaching children to be accepting of all different types of people" should not involve anyone who parodies other groups with grotesque sexualised caricatures. This is a movement that is deliberately targeting very young children in order to break down their boundaries about what is acceptable.
You won't find men like this performing in adult cancer wards or orthopaedic wards or homeless shelters. There's a reason that it's children being targeted.

bettybeans · 07/08/2019 11:29

You teach children that adults behaving in a sexualised way towards them or around them is a very bad thing. It's your absolute basics of keeping children safe. This type of behaviour conflicts with that basic messaging and confuses kids. You simply don't confuse kids about sexualised behaviour. Not ever. I can't believe anyone even has to explain this.

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 15:32

Some of you have never watched RuPauls drag race, and it SHOWS.

Dont like it? Dont take your kid to it.

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 15:40

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Birdsfoottrefoil · 07/08/2019 15:45

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

joystir59 · 07/08/2019 15:56

Drag parodying femininity- why is that positive? Misogyny, misogyny, misogyny. How do mother's cope trying to raise girls through all this shite? Or boys?

GCAcademic · 07/08/2019 16:00

Some of you have never watched RuPauls drag race, and it SHOWS.

Oh noes! The fundamental basis of all rational opinion-forming is watching RuPaul’s drag race! Atone for your ignorance wimmins!

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 16:01

Drag emphasizes the power in femininity and female sexuality . Its not mocking, if anything it mocks the trappings that come alongside being a woman. Why do we glue bits of plastic to our fingers, for example?

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 16:03

GCAcademic scorn all you like, but a tongue in cheek reference thats clearly gone over you head.
A bunch of (mostly) white women screeching about a subject they have very little information on, with audacity to compare it to racism, is shocking.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 07/08/2019 16:10

Butters has it not occurred to you that a program for mainstream media might have a rather sanitised version of adult entertainment? As for men ‘emphasising the power of female sexuality’ by dressing up as exaggerated versions of females is not mocking us....

Birdsfoottrefoil · 07/08/2019 16:13

But that aside, tell me Butters how do you feel about men asking for children’s email addresses?

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Butters83 · 07/08/2019 16:15

Birdsfoottrefoil Drag can be both for adults, or sanitized for TV, or for children. Its men (and women!) in over exaggerated make up. Dont be a bigot.

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