Student kicked out of classroom as believes there are only male and female

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Really disturbing anti science and authoritarian, though I have some sympathy for the brainwashed teacher who is following policy twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1139572227307794432?s=19

Hhm...Murray had better tread carefully. Filming staff like this is a serious thing and I wouldn't be surprised if disciplinary action would be taken.
I think as teachers we should not be subjected to secret filming... it is an abuse.

If the student hadn't filmed it but had just described what happened, we'd have got the predictable 'it probably didn't happen like that', 'all students lie about why they got told off at school' and so on.

Now we have the evidence. And it's very chilling.

Wow so 2 people on here actually think Murray is the bad one here
Fucking hell

You cannot film teachers and post on social media.

I agree with what Murray is saying but don't agree with him filming and posting on social media.

So that's why you have started another thread on The Staffroom board.

You can not lie to children.

That's gaslighting. Aka abuse.

Murray had better tread carefully

Yes, that's definitely the lesson to learn from this. Murray must learn to be obedient. If someone in authority tell Murray to state a falsehood, Murray must do so and not ask any questions.

Yes. I would like teacher's opinions on being filmed in class and posted on social media.

It’s in Scotland we don’t have gcse

Looks like the Stasi are out to silence Murray. Bad Murray isn't allow to speak his reality.

I'm sorry. I've lived this.

Its fucking with your mind. Teachers duty should always be not to do that.

Murray was filming and goading the teacher, knowing he was going to post on social media. The teacher was in a lose/lose situation.

Whatever the teacher is or isn't saying it is wrong to secretly film a member of staff. If Murray did film to act as proof he should have only shown it to the head teacher to prove the teacher was wrong. Sharing over social media is not appropriate.

I’m uncomfortable with phone use in school andglad that my dcs schools take a very hard line on it (removed in morning and out in secure locker at one of them, the other involves confiscation if seen and the parent has to make an appointment with HOY to get phone back). I also think it’s unfair not to pixelate the teacher’s face. An audio might have worked just as well.

That said - it is shocking that either a) the teacher is wholeheartedly embracing stupid dishonest presentation of multiple sexes/genders or b) has been placed in a position where the party line needs to be toed in imparting unscientific guff like this.

Without the filming and the sharing then it didn't happen.

It did happen. I want people to know that it did happen. Because the knowledge that it happened will benefit society.

But would the headteacher have believed that the science teacher was wrong? They would probably have also followed the party line. The student is in a no win situation - by putting it on line then the pressure they are under to conform cannot be disputed.

I’m very uncomfortable about a teacher being filmed like this (and shared on sm). But I’m extremely uncomfortable about what training/brainwashing that middle aged teacher has gone through to make him speak in that way.
I’m not entirely convinced by the “there are only two genders” actually as gender is a social construct there can be a million of them. But I know what he means.

Scary. I really wish people would get the hang of saying “sex” when they mean sex, rather than saying gender. It’s causing a lot of confusion. Murray meant sex, but he was saying gender which is what was causing the problem, because the teacher was right in that there are oodles of genders (because genders are made up according to the individual who is deciding what theirs is). But Murray meant sex. He needs to say sex.

If Murray had shown it to the head teacher he would have had the recording seized and the matter covered up. If you don’t want to be professionally embarrassed don’t spout shit in class.

If you don’t understand a subject, don’t fucking teach it.

This reminds me of the Lindsay Shepherd Case.

I’m not entirely convinced by the “there are only two genders” actually as gender is a social construct there can be a million of them. But I know what he means.

This shows he's already been brainwashed enough not to have the language to express clearly what he means. It shows his ability to argue in favour of reality has already been compromised. But despite that he did stand up for reality even if he didn't have the confidence to use the right words.

In the current climate, why does anyone think the teacher would be “professionally embarrassed”? I’d be more worried about what would happen to a teacher who stated changing sex wasn’t possible, for example.

Yes - agree re gender/sex confusion. While seems clear that the kid means sex. I use sex as a term when talking with my teen dcs but it’s as if gender has overridden sex as a thing (which then downplays the importance of biological sex).

Whatever. It is an invasion of the teacher's rights and inappropriate.
Eg I might personally think a certain religion is bonkers but were a child to voice that opinion I might have to remind them that it's inappropriate to say so as that is our policy. Doesn't mean I agree with it but it's part of the job.
Now if there is an issue with policy that should be approached but I daresay its unfair to spread that poor teacher's face all over social media without knowing his beliefs.

I scribbled out gender and wrote “sex” above it on an activity registration form for my DC this evening. (Options were Male and female) I’m so sick of seeing gender when sex is what is meant. People are so confused by it. I’m going to fix it ever time I see it.