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Kitty Holland of the Irish Times declaring Jean Hatchet’s upcoming ride for murderec women transphobic

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BickerinBrattle · 11/06/2019 02:25

mobile.twitter.com/KittyHollandIT/status/1137698701357518848

When Jean announced an upcoming ride for women, a TRA asked for info, wanting to join with “the ladies” to support “the ladies.” Jean advised that the ride was for women only. The TRA then sent Jean, who has ovarian cancer, a photo of an ovarian scan.

Kitty Holland of the Irish Times then appeared on Jean’s twitter feed to ask why Jean was “having a go” at transwomen.

Despite Jean’s careful explanation that this was a ride specifically to celebrate women in the UK murdered by husbands or boyfriends, and that no transwomen appeared in that grouping, Kitty Holland has continued to tweet about the “transphobia.” She even accused Debbie Hayton of transphobia after Debbie backed Jean.

A TRA posted on twitter a reward for anyone who’d knock Jean off her bike.

For anyone who has a bike but isn’t in London, Jean is now helping others to organize rides in other cities.

Benefits go to Karen Ingalla-Smith’s organisation, nia.

OP posts:
Isatis · 11/06/2019 08:10

Genuine question: how, in practical terms, can Jean Hatchet prevent men from joining the rides if they take place on public roads?

Floisme · 11/06/2019 08:13

I don't know. But here's another genuine question: what kind of nobhead would want to do that when they've been asked not to?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/06/2019 08:15

It isn't about actually joiing her, Isatis it is about her saying they can or can't.

As has been noticed over teh last few years when TRAs get something they have shouted about wanting they don't use it or they find another thing to shout about. Gender neutral toiltes for example. In places where they now exist TRAs are shouting that having floor to ceiling doors are transphobic! Sadly I am not joking!

Isatis · 11/06/2019 08:15

There are an awful lot of knobheads around.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/06/2019 08:24

Yep!

Floisme · 11/06/2019 08:24

If they really want to help why don't they offer to serve tea and sandwiches afterwards?

Datun · 11/06/2019 08:32

Awful for Jean and everyone else involved, but massive amounts of revealing sunlight. Explaining why women riding for murdered women is transphobic couldn't be more effective in exposing the misogyny.

KennDodd · 11/06/2019 08:34

OrchidInTheSun

I was making a point about how this is more likely to be treated by the police.

Transwoman threatens to assault a women - police ignore.
Women, runs women only event, transwoman complaints - police investigate.

okeydokeywokeyblokey · 11/06/2019 08:42

Sunset beetch, theres no image?? Has it been removed?

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 11/06/2019 08:42

#JessicaWakefieldSV I was being sarcastic. Sadly I think the police are more likely to take course of action outlined by #KennDodd.

#Floisme Grin

GCAcademic · 11/06/2019 08:46

I have a policy of making a donation whenever this kind of pile on happens. It’s costing me quite a bit, I must say. If you’re reading this, Jean, I’ve just sent you a little contribution to your wonderful cause.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 11/06/2019 08:51

I regularly donate to Jeans cause, I was a child of terrible domestic violence and thought he’d kill my mum or brother many times. I’ll be donating again today to show support.

I don’t know why I’m surprised by this but the woman from the Irish Times has really pissed me off.

OrchidInTheSun · 11/06/2019 08:54

Sorry Kenn. Brain not quite engaged yet Blush

Popchyk · 11/06/2019 08:56

Trans allies can surely organise rides of their own? And honour whoever they want to honour in that way?

Or is it just about harassing women?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/06/2019 08:57

From the tweets there I think we don't need to assume anything, it obviously IS just to harrass women!

GCAcademic · 11/06/2019 08:59

Or is it just about harassing women?

Top five, I don’t think it’s just about harassing women. For the handmaidens it’s also about getting men to like you, and using woke cred to progress your career. Other women are just collateral damage to them.

GCAcademic · 11/06/2019 09:00

Top five? Sigh. “To be fair”. Bloody IPad.

SunsetBeetch · 11/06/2019 09:08

That's weird. Trying again.

LangCleg · 11/06/2019 09:09

I have a policy of making a donation whenever this kind of pile on happens. It’s costing me quite a bit, I must say. If you’re reading this, Jean, I’ve just sent you a little contribution to your wonderful cause.

I do the same thing! Also chuck an extra quid in to crowdfunders when people turn up here to try to discredit them!

All power to Jean's elbow. She's very good at publicising her efforts and I'm unsure why this would be a bad thing?

LangCleg · 11/06/2019 09:10

That's weird. Trying again.

I think MN images are wobbly at the moment. Half the time, I can only see that one exists, not what it is.

SunsetBeetch · 11/06/2019 09:10

I note Flaps screenshot has gone now too, but it was definitely there before...

Ereshkigal · 11/06/2019 09:13

I don't know. But here's another genuine question: what kind of nobhead would want to do that when they've been asked not to?

We all know the answer to that.

Ereshkigal · 11/06/2019 09:14

Awful for Jean and everyone else involved, but massive amounts of revealing sunlight. Explaining why women riding for murdered women is transphobic couldn't be more effective in exposing the misogyny.

And yes.

RuffleCrow · 11/06/2019 09:21

I completely agree Jessica. If it was the right of men to 'live as women' they were really backing they wouldn't be advocating violence towards post op transexuals who actually support women's sex based rights.

maslinpan · 11/06/2019 09:24

I am waiting for the first trans women to organise their own ride to raise money for murdered transwomen. Surely that would be feasible? Or are they too busy tweeting misogyny to get off their arses?

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