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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner.

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HandsOffMyRights · 06/06/2019 08:25

Words fail me today

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OccasionalKite · 12/06/2019 00:03

This is all just a men's sexual rights campaign, in reality.

And they're not particularly shy about it. They themselves are publicising this information about themselves.

OccasionalKite · 12/06/2019 00:21

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NoSquirrels · 12/06/2019 00:37

why the fuck are these openly kink men being given prominent positions, let alone paid employment, in a supposedly child protection organisation?

Diversity.

It’s a blanket catch-all.

Someone, somewhere has left their brain at the door, though. Sex kinks aren’t in the same ballpark as same-sex attraction.

Sure, both are about desire and sexuality. But for children - it’s the NSPCC, remember - you don’t need a self-affirming spectrum of every kink under the sun.

terfsandwich · 12/06/2019 00:40

What's the comorbidity likelihood between those DSM listed paraphilias? That's the real issue here, if pedophiles are able to network and find fellows via those other fetish groups.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 12/06/2019 00:57

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IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 12/06/2019 01:34

It fucks me off so much that white middle class men can get away with so much so blatantly while if anyone else puts a foot wrong they're out on their arse.

Remember that female teacher whonwas sacked because photos of her on her hen night got out? A fucking hen night. Meanwhile, men can openly advertise their fetish and everyone is fine with it.

NeurotrashWarrior · 12/06/2019 06:33

Oh my fucking god, reading the last 150 posts.

Going back to Desmond is amazing, I read in an article yesterday that his parents claim he's "on the autistic spectrum."

I always wondered this but it just adds an extra layer of "this child is especially vulnerable to manipulation and exploitation" by predators.

NeurotrashWarrior · 12/06/2019 06:48

Current safeguarding training gives advice for how to report and whistle blow in your own organisation and local authority, and then also hands out this number:

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Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner.
Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner.
NeurotrashWarrior · 12/06/2019 06:50

And what would be the advice to a child in this situation?

Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner.
NeurotrashWarrior · 12/06/2019 06:51

BBC Gaslighting again... www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3599338-bbc-gaslighting-again

SophoclesTheFox · 12/06/2019 06:51

Bloody hellfire. If I linked a blog about my sex life to my linked in profile, I’d fully expect to never work again in my field. And I don’t have anything to do with protecting children.

I honestly had no idea until recently how corrupt and morally bankrupt the charity sector can be.

But back to the main topic, it’s clear to anyone with eyes that sacking Bergdorf has feck all to do with transphobia and everything to do with Bergdorf being, at best, a liability for any credible organisation to associate themselves with. The link with the rubber lover does serve quite well to illustrate how it’s happened though, as clearly there is a cultural inability at the NSPCC to enforce appropriate boundaries and professional behaviour.

NeurotrashWarrior · 12/06/2019 07:11

You just don't do you!

I feel it's pertinent to link this thread here,sorry if I've missed it being done so already.

Has anyone seen the thread on Twitter about the Guardian, BBC and Channel 4 link with Mermaids, etc? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3609290-Has-anyone-seen-the-thread-on-Twitter-about-the-Guardian-BBC-and-Channel-4-link-with-Mermaids-etc

KatvonHostileExtremist · 12/06/2019 07:35

I think James doesn't have a very good grip on that strange idea of safeguarding children.

I worry so bloody much about safeguarding and these men make a joke out of it all.

ZebrasAreBras · 12/06/2019 07:39

And what would be the advice to a child in this situation?

I've got a terrible feeling that trans ideology has taken such a hold, that they would counsel and "educate" brainwash the child into "affirmation and acceptance."

Outofinspiration · 12/06/2019 07:54

I work in education and 'Safeguarding' is everything now. You can fail an OFSTED on it, any interview will have questions about it, all staff must have yearly refresher training on it, it is taken extremely seriously. I'm pretty sure a teacher who openly blogged about their rubber fetish and linked it with their place of work would be at best, seriously reprimanded.

And yet, look what is happening in these charities?

OrchidInTheSun · 12/06/2019 07:58

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ChattyLion · 12/06/2019 08:06

WTF am I reading? The fact that we are able to ask these very very serious questions about NSPCC culture and judgement and all based on their own evidence shows how badly adrift the NSPCC is. Their mission and their expertise is essential to the protection of children.
If it turns out that the NSPCC don’t understand boundaries and safeguarding properly then it would be very dangerous and very inappropriate that NSPCC can hold the unique legal powers over children that they have got.

ChattyLion · 12/06/2019 08:53

Look at the parallels around the importance of HR being on top of things for setting overall standards of conduct (at Oxfam in the Oxfam sex abuse scandal report just published by the Charity Commission):

www.gov.uk/government/publications/charity-inquiry-oxfam-gb

^ Links to summary and full report

www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-reports-on-inquiry-into-oxfam-gb-no-charity-is-more-important-than-the-people-it-serves-or-the-mission-it-pursues

^ the press release that accompanies this.

BeUpStanding · 12/06/2019 08:57

This is all horrific. Lisa Muggeridge was absolutely right, we're in the centre of complete and utter systemic failure to safeguard and protect children and vulnerable adults. Total collapse.

The fact that MB is trans is utterly beside the point, it's almost an irrelevance. We should do whatever we can to keep the focus on institutions who are failing in their duty of care, rather than giving narcissistic supply to individuals who crave publicity... Imho anyway.

BeUpStanding · 12/06/2019 09:00

Has the NSPCC webchat thread been linked here yet? Where mumsnetters asked questions about NSPCC's policies around safeguarding, and in response NSPCC cancelled the webchat. I can't recall if I've seen it... Will have a search now

hipsterfun · 12/06/2019 09:03

I'm pretty sure a teacher who openly blogged about their rubber fetish and linked it with their place of work would be at best, seriously reprimanded.

It’s unilkely the celeb liaison works with children or young people, so it’s not quite the same.

It would be a pity if this very important thread disappeared because it became about somebody’s personal life rather than the questionable decision to work with MB.

ChattyLion · 12/06/2019 09:04

news.sky.com/story/oxfam-had-culture-of-tolerating-poor-behaviour-sex-scandal-report-finds-11739707

Headline:
Oxfam 'cannot promise' no more sex scandals

^Boss Caroline Thomson says that as the charity works in lawless areas, it is "difficult to be sure what is happening there". ...

Oxfam did not report allegations of child abuse by its staff in Haiti and failed to adequately investigate claims against a charity "boss" that children as young as 12 or 13 were victims of sexual misconduct, according to the 142-page report.

Its failings amounted to "mismanagement", the Charity Commission said, prompting the regulator to issue it [Oxfam] with an official warning.

Charity Commission chief executive Helen Stephenson said: "What went wrong in Haiti did not happen in isolation .

"Our inquiry demonstrates that, over a period of years, Oxfam's internal culture tolerated poor behaviour, and at times lost sight of the values it stands for."