Julie Bindel physically attacked after meeting

[MsMcWibble]

Seems to have been carried out by well known TRA who has threatened violence before: twitter.com/bindelj/status/1136402563379716096

I just got blocked on that Penis News twitter thread for the controversial statement "homosexuals are same sex attracted". That was it. These people are insane.

@AlwaysComingHome

Whatever it is, it's not a good look on anyone.

Jone's kwiw entry runs into the 1,000s.

Yup, that kind of grim

Shocking ripple effect here!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3606543-Green-MSP-forced-to-apologise-for-attending-womens-rights-event?watched=1&msgid=87660201#87660201

This is a fascinating thread. I agree that identifying as trans allows kid gloves to be used for crimes that in the normal run of things would be wholeheartedly condemned.

One thing that strikes me is asking a woman who campaigns for women in prison to press charges that could lead to a violent man being placed in with the women she campaigns for does seem to be a catch 22.

Sure Scotland have kept Tiffany Almighty in solitary confinement in a men's prison but they are so dangerous there's no risk they'd ever be moved. Someone like this attacker might be a different matter.

Silly me, making any criticism of a transwoman at all when the Weekend Mods are on duty. I should Know My Place by now.

Let's remind ourselves how Edinburgh deals with laughing, no security team required.

prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=2998
www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/construction-workers-arrested-fined-fired-for-laughing-at-men-dressed-as-women
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3507674-Labourer-fined-500-for-mocking-woman-and-ordered-to-pay-her-500

Why was @AlwaysComingHome comment removed? @MNHQ. There was nothing against the rules about it.

So being a trans woman and being 'screamed' at and in a 'hail of abuse' is different to what Julie Bindel was subjected to? How come?

Why was @AlwaysComingHome comment removed? @MNHQ. There was nothing against the rules about it.

The first one was nothing more than Jones’ own profile pics with the single comment ‘This is Zinnia Jones’.

Face pics, that’s all.

The reason it was deleted is that it’s the weekend.

Maybe Julie isn't pressing charges because all that will happen is that her male assailant will get a warning and then it will add to the current exponential increase in female violent crime statistics. And that would be such an insult to her that she prefers to just deal with it this way. Publicly. Where everyone can see what it was.

Sunday Times article:

'Julie Bindel: the man in a skirt called me a Nazi — then attacked'
(extract)
I went outside to wait for my taxi, followed by the security staff. As I was saying my goodbyes a man, who had clearly been waiting around the corner for me to emerge, ran up and began screaming in my face, calling me “scum”, “Terf” and “bigot”. He lunged at me and was a split-second away from thumping me full in the face when three security guards pulled him away. I took out my phone to try to record the attack. As I did this, the attacker lunged at me again and had to be restrained.

How have we arrived at this shocking state of affairs, where feminist campaigners are called “Nazi scum” and are no-platformed — denied a forum — for speaking out on behalf of marginalised and abused women?

I have been labelled a bigot, a Nazi and a transphobe since I wrote that column in 2004. It matters not that I have since apologised for some of the language I had used, because unless feminists totally capitulate and adopt the Stonewall mantra of “trans women are women”, we are labelled “transphobic bigots”. My view on transsexuality is that trans women are trans women, as distinct from natal females. It is impossible to change sex, it is only possible to live as the opposite sex.

I have experienced abuse for my views these past 15 years for the simple reason that I refuse to accept the Orwellian concept that it is possible for a man simply to declare he is now “a woman” because he “feels like a woman”. The attack has left me feeling anxious and depressed. By coincidence, I had ended my speech by railing against the way women, rather than the perpetrators, are often blamed when we are raped or suffer domestic violence.

I have been beaten up, but not for a long time. Being a lesbian and a radical feminist brings with it certain dangers because there are some serious misogynists out there. But the transgender activists and their allies, a mix of woke bearded blokes and queer-identified female students, argue that they are on the “right side of history” because they are “calling out” transphobic feminists and are defending trans people." (continues)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/julie-bindel-the-man-in-a-skirt-called-me-a-nazi-then-attacked-8dfwk8jft?shareToken=f19f4ec79438928b896b5208e86342d6&wgu=270525_54264_15600667871634_3b5bdf25e1&wgexpiry=1567842787&utm_source=planit&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=22278

Maybe Julie isn't pressing charges because all that will happen is that her male assailant will get a warning and then it will add to the current exponential increase in female violent crime statistics

If Julie goes legal, then during proceedings there she would have to be media silent about the case.

She is unlikely to be counter challenged legally for what she says (defamation etc), because although it might silence her in the short term, a legal case against her would ultimately work to her advantage. For obvious reasons.

“Let's remind ourselves how Edinburgh deals with laughing, no security team required.”

Hmmm. Concerning the content of that article; As a GC feminist I do not accept that it is OK for Trans Women to be laughed at and mocked from building sites, any more than the constant wolf whistling was OK. Building contractors have done a good job getting their employees to behave wrt passing women.

No one is required to ‘believe’ that people can change sex, just not be rude and publicly mock someone’s appearance. Whoever they may be.

However if your point is that Edinburgh rightly defends Trans people against being mocked in the street, so should also defend GC women presenting their POV, I agree.

True RedToothBrush, I suppose I was thinking that James Morton (or was it Stephen Whittle?) saying to report all Trans Hate incidents to the police because they "need the stats". However, in our case we don't need "the stats" because the stats have been manipulated to falsify the data (by saying that a male is a female).

What we need are statistics which show that a male transgender person has, yet again, attacked a female, but we cannot get those statistics, because male people have an enormous vested interest in making sure those statistics are impossible to collect, because they would tell a very clear story. And so, by stealth, they have engineered a situation where we can never know the true extent of how many situations of this type there are.

If I were Julie I wouldn't both reporting this if I couldn't be assured that this crime would be recorded as what it actually is.

Maybe Julie isn't pressing charges because

If anyone should have reported the violence, then it was the security team.

I'm not up to speed on Scottish law but in England and Wales the assailant is guilty of a public order offence, like an affray.

(An affray is where a person uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety.).

It is a far, far more serious crime than an assault without injury (or whatever that offence is called in Scotland).

Julie's reluctance to report is understandable:
*the assailant is deprived of a platform in a court room.

*She can speak about her ordeal because there are no reporting restrictions.

*She does not have to re-live her experience or yield power to the assailant, in court.
*She deprives TRAs of the opportunity to protest on behalf of the martyr TackleTodger (or whatever he is called)

Good call, Julie. Pity that the Security Team didn't step up to the plate.

Update on this.

A witness has reported the incident to the police. And police are investigating.

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/police-investigate-after-feminist-almost-punched-after-women-s-talk-in-edinburgh-1-4948212

Good. Best of luck with this.

towntattle has reactivated their twitter profile.

Thanks for the update.

Thanks for the update. It's courageous of JB to continue to speak publicly about this assault. Even just reading it about it, makes it clear that the victim blaming is worse than what actually happened.

'She was asking for it' needs to be named for what it is.

Why did this even need to be reported directly to the police before they chose to investigate?

They’ve got teams of people pissing away tax payers money scanning Twitter for ‘abuse’ that hasn’t been reported, even to Twitter, and which offends no-one except the police themselves, yet this assault was widely reported in the media and the police sat back until forced to act.

It can’t be repeated too often: the police in this country are a fucking joke.

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Towntattle charged