Julie Bindel physically attacked after meeting

[MsMcWibble]

Seems to have been carried out by well known TRA who has threatened violence before: twitter.com/bindelj/status/1136402563379716096

Awesome post charlie, I may have to cutnpaste that everywhere.

I worry so much about public feminists who don't toe the trans line
Do you know what though, the more of us who refuse to bend the harder it will be to make targets of women. Hitting one or two sticky out nails is a lot easier than hitting rows and rows. If we all reject this language bastardisation and stand firm we will always outnumber this madness.

Angry men are dangerous.

Angry women are immovable.

Fuck the moral high ground.

Woman is not a feeling in a man's head. Woman is not a costume. We are born, not worn. After everything I've been through for being born female in a male-dominated world, it hurts my feelings when men claim womanhood.

And I am no longer afraid to say that I find it hugely offensive that a member of the oppressor class thinks he can not only identify into the class oppressed by his own but that by doing so he becomes the oppressed and I the oppressor.

Fuck that shit. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on. If I lived a million years, I still wouldn't have enough time to type all the fuck yous he deserves.

Angry women are immovable.

I like that. I don't know, but hope we all watched "She's beautiful when she's angry" on Netflix when it was available, because it is fantastically educational for those of us who weren't around at the time (or babies at the time).

There was no NAMALTING then - women were furious. And rightly so. We'll go back to there.

Very well said CharlieParley

And I remind all here that the so-called phenomenon of "misgendering" is not illegal. It is not written in any UK law. It is not "hate speech"! Some say it is "good manners" to avoid "misgendering" but who benefits from that? Not us women or children, that's for sure.

"Misgendering" is a tool used to gaslight our society. We are still subjected to the persistent misogyny, the persistent male violence.

So say it as you see it.

Charlie you're so right. The 'oooh, you must use preferred pronouns as misgendering is literal violence' and 'oooh, you must apologise for the huge psychological distress that your deadnaming someone caused' is pure and simple abusive, coercively controlling gas-lighting.

It's asking women to ignore their sensory experiences and lifetime of socialisation about male/female behaviour and essentially forgo our reality to pander to the delusion of people who are abusing us.

People the sex class which has abused women historically and globally since time began and is receiving a terrifying influx of power and enablers at this point in time.

I can understand why JB doesn't want to press charges - it would just give TownTattle more armoury for his martyrdom, and frankly she's got better things to be doing.

Misgendering is when you call a man "she". It's always been a reversal.

Well said Charlie. I too am incredibly offended that men think they can call themselves women.

The 'oooh, you must use preferred pronouns as misgendering is literal violence' and 'oooh, you must apologise for the huge psychological distress that your deadnaming someone caused' is pure and simple abusive, coercively controlling gas-lighting.

And I further remind everyone here that the so-called phenomenon of "deadnaming" is not illegal.

The GRA 2004 is explicit here in the Explanatory Note 28 related to Section 9:

"Subsection (2) provides amplification of subsection (1), making clear that the recognition is not retrospective, so the certificate does not rewrite the gender history of the transsexual person, and that the new gender applies for the interpretation of enactments, instruments and documents made before as well as after the issue of a certificate."

Note use of " not retrospective, so the certificate does not rewrite the gender history of the transsexual person".

Yet again, the GRA 2004 is being misrepresented by those who seek to control us all.

And, of course, since only circa 5000 people [mostly males] have a GRC, so-called "misgendering" of cross-dressers, transvestites and other AGPs etc is never an issue.

Women's Rights.

Second Wave Feminism.

The anger is palpable.

To quote one of those original second wavers: "You're not allowed to retire from women's issues. You still have to pay attention. 'Cause someone's going to try to yank the rug you from under you. And that's what's happening now."

And this is about abortion rights, nothing to do with trans anything. Women's rights are under attack from all directions. And what's worse - the word "woman" is now being colonised by men. We need to get angry again. Not violent, but angry.

I will not misgender, I will not call a man a woman.

I will not msgender, I will not call a man a woman.

I would say I will not be gaslit into "mis-sexing" humanity. I will never call a man a woman or a woman a man under any circumstances.

I will never "misgender" any man by using feminine pronouns; I will never "misgender" any woman by using masculine pronouns.

I will not be gaslit by this ideology that is "transgenderism".

Jacky - yes.

Who knew how we could be gaslit into "the simple courtesy" of calling someone their "preferred pronouns" could metamorphise into the gaslighting narrative that we have today? That it could twist into "transwomen ARE women" - and into the dissolution of women's rights.

That doesn't make sense, but you get the just.

Should be:

Who knew how we could be gaslit into "the simple courtesy" of calling someone their "preferred pronouns" - which would then metamorphise into the gaslighting narrative that we have today? That "transwomen ARE women" - and into the dissolution of women's rights.

Or something.

I feel gaslighted. By men, and by progressive young women who have no idea what's at stake. Men couldn't stop the women's rights movement five decades ago, and so have colonised them.

I feel bad that I was so complacent in the 90's , as a young woman of 20yrs old - I thought we had it made. I thought we were equal. I thought it was a done deal, and would last forever. How stupid of me.

I never dreamt I'd be fighting for my daughter to keep the rights I had growing up.

Sorry, I'm on a ramble after drinking pink gin.

ZebrasAreBras "I'm on a ramble ...."

Go you, darlin'!

Tomorrow take 90 minutes to watch this video: [it is important history]

It really is, Jacky

ZebrasAreBras You are making sense to me. Perfect sense even before you rewrote your point 're courtesy pronouns morphing into compelled speech on the path to losing our rights.

We must be about the same age. I also thought we were sorted and I wanted nothing to do with the Sex in the City type of feminism that proudly declared that every choice is a feminist choice. They spent zero time even trying to understand that not it's not a choice if you have no other options, that not all choices are good for us even if we make them and that it takes more than simply being female to make a choice informed by feminist theory and practice.

I can't believe this is happening. Well, I don't want to believe that it is. But here we are.

And DH just got me a gin and tonic, so cheers to us waking up in time to join the fight

Thanks Charlie for all women ruminating over this, it's good for the soul

Totally agree with "I can't believe this is happening" - this is where I'm am every day.

Pink News are getting so much stick for their awful article, they have been attempting damage limitation but they've been well and truly exposed and to a wider audience than usual. Even other publications are calling them out now.

I saw Goody Abbott speaking to Goody Bindel

Pink News seem to think that if “physical attack” doesn’t result in “physical harm” then it can’t have been a “physical attack”.

They’re a disgusting bunch aren’t they?

"What's the matter with you? It's not like any bones were broken. He just gave you a scare. Perhaps that will teach you not to press his buttons again."

Pink News seem to think that if “physical attack” doesn’t result in “physical harm” then it can’t have been a “physical attack”.

Weird, huh? Six witnesses including four security guards, at least three of whom had to restrain Mr Brennan to stop him from punching Julie, without which she would have suffered physical harm. And even LassofFyvie (who merely happened to be in the vicinity) noticed a commotion from afar.

But it's no more than an alleged attack and no fucks are given about the fact that the attacker shouted the most vile abuse at Julie. That's not even remotely okay.

But seemingly this is all balanced out by the fact that after the male aggression and woman-hatred she was subjected to, Julie correctly identified her attacker as a man and named the attack for what it was - male violence.

Deserves all she gets - it's Karma, bitch - for misgendering a bloke presenting as a bloke and behaving like the worst kind of bloke while stating that he attacked her. For fucks sake but PinkNews really is PenisNews now. And I used to read that rag.

Also, I was once attacked by a random arsehole and yet I walked away with nothing more than an almighty scare. The guy got a few punches in, but happened to miss my face and any sensitive spots and I was wearing a thick woollen jacket. Does that not constitute an attack either then?

Arseholes, the lot of them.

What happened to the concept of “literal violence”?

Ah yes, call someone the wrong pronouns and you’re akin to a murderer. Meanwhile Joss Prior is forensically analysing Maria MacLachlan’s photo post-assault and thinks that bruise needs to be in quotation marks.

mobile.twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1136566783501115393

Joss should put themselves up as defence council for people who abuse children; they’re always trying to explain away bruising and mechanisms of bruising to get themselves off.

Well, it’s actually the same old same old concept repackaged and marketed as as a new and improved concept. The new literal violence by way of a woman’s tongue leads to the old literal violence by way of a man’s fist.

She literally asked for it.