If you could chose sex from birth would you live as a man?

[habobobo]

I realised almost every bad or difficult thing thats happened to me personally most likely wouldn't happen to a guy. So if could chose, I think I would probably chose to live life as a man. This makes me a bit sad.

How about you guys?

I would shag my female friends if they wanted to.

How very kind of you. Thank you for this valuable service to womankind.

I dont have any real female friends though

Gosh, that is a surprise.

Any women left here managing to get a word in edgewise?

No, I know men who have had a terrible time, but then also women too. I know both sexes that have have great lives, most people I know are happy and well adjusted in equal number men and women.

I've faced societal persecution and had years of childhood abuse as a male, my childhood would have been so much easier if I'd been female. I have watched DD, and DP, be subject to horrendous levels of abuse - DP has significant QoL issues and disability and I have no doubt over the 20+ years we've been together her sex has initiated or exacerbated the issue. It makes me incredibly sad watching DD encounter abuse due to her sexual preference, again she is targeted because she is female.

With having seen what they have both suffered, and will no doubt continue to suffer, would I want to have been born female? Even though my childhood abuse likely wouldn't have existed? No. I don't say that lightly either, as due to the abuse I have PTSD and cPTSD.

I never denied women are at risk of sexual violence. They are and thats but plenty of women don't let that stop them living there lives, and the ones that want to get laid, do so. And they don't do it to get some guy off, women do like sex don't they?

*that's terrible

Missed a word

you're in a position that allows you to pick and choose

I've just had a very vivid flashback to the SCUM Manifesto, I think some paragraph that most men would be prepared to swim through a lake of snot for the sake of a shag.

'Pick and choose' versus what? Being so desperate that you'll have sex with anything, however 'unattractive' you might find them. But then we already knew that, given the industry that men have created around that desperation (or around that urge to control). I'm so glad I'm a dyke.................

'Pick and choose' versus what? Being so desperate that you'll have sex with anything, however 'unattractive' you might find them.

You tend to be more thankful for what you have if the opportunity arises less frequently. If you eat chocolate bars constantly, you start to feel sick of them and you will be far more selective with the kind of chocolate you eat. If you only get to eat a chocolate bar once a year, it tastes like heaven.

I'm always very grateful when the opportunity arises, and I always feel amazed and in awe that I can be in the company of a woman who is OK with showing me everything. The last woman I had sex with said I was looking at her so intensely, she felt like she was being examined by a doctor...

No way. I'd hate to be a man

"most men would be prepared to swim through a lake of snot for the sake of a shag.

'Pick and choose' versus what? Being so desperate that you'll have sex with anything, however 'unattractive' you might find them. But then we already knew that, given the industry that men have created around that desperation (or around that urge to control). I'm so glad I'm a dyke................."

I don't agree at all. I think men are less picky for casual sex because they get it less often. I might swim through snot to have sex with a truly beautiful woman. Women would skip that and head to the bar, a lot easier.

And anyway, I don't think men are desperate to have sex with really unattractive women, they just envy how a woman can get with a man 'out of her league' or at least within. A lot of men are faced with settling, or not having sex at all. Personally I would always choose the latter.

Always lovely when incels show up here.

And by lovely I mean creepy as actual fuck.

I'm not an incel, I was just saying that aspect of being a woman I would like. You know, like the thread was mean to be about before getting derailed by a bunch of women with a chip on their shoulder about men. ¯\(ツ)/¯

Flanner - That's an odd way to describe a thread clearly dominated by details of dwatsuts sex life.

I'm not going back to re read it right now, but wasn't he just defending me, after I somehow managed to offend 3 or 4 separate people just by saying women have an easier time getting casual sex (something I haven't actually seen anyone deny yet).

You do kind of have a point though

thanks for the replies!

what are incels doing on mumsnet

YES! But I'm not and people can't change sex so I'm stuck getting paid less.

I've repeatedly reported but HQ seem to be busy today.

Not much point choosing sex from birth. That ships sails at conception.

Time to bring in mandatory Sex Ed classes for MN users. some people appear to have been in the back of the class eating chalk whilst the rest of us were condomming bananas

If you would've asked me as a kid/teen/young adult I would've said yes in a heartbeat. I am happy with who I am and what I am now, but it took a long time.

It's hardly easier for women to have casual sex when women are judged as sluts and whores, dirty and easy, while for men casual sex is seen as part and parcel of being a man. Misogynist men hate women indulging in pleasure on their terms, and they hate the idea of falling in love with a woman who's had more than X amount of other men inside them (whatever arbitrary number they deem pure enough)

I think it would be a hell of a lot easier being a man. And I would genuinely like to try it, just to see how it feels to be 'treat as' the default human instead of looked at like basically a piece of meat. God that answer is depressing though.

It's interesting those who would choose to be male, all seem to presume they'd be one of the lucky men. The minority of men who make it to the board room or a top job.

Who fancies being a black man in inner city London? The Hermes guy on less than minimum wage zero hours contract.
Fancy digging holes for a living? Fancy working on the motorway and risking life and limb every shift.