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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If you could chose sex from birth would you live as a man?

166 replies

habobobo · 05/06/2019 20:51

I realised almost every bad or difficult thing thats happened to me personally most likely wouldn't happen to a guy. So if could chose, I think I would probably chose to live life as a man. This makes me a bit sad.

How about you guys?

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Outanabout · 06/06/2019 08:15

...so the answer is no, I've never wanted to be anyone other than who I am, and especially not to be a male

RiversDisguise · 06/06/2019 08:19

On the orgasm question, women can have miltiple orgasms in quick succession, can have more powerful orgasms, and are capable of getting turned on by a wider range of things. I think we have it better.

NottonightJosepheen · 06/06/2019 08:19

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44HuntJas · 06/06/2019 08:22

No, because I don't want a man's facial structure or body.

Outanabout · 06/06/2019 08:31

Haha a male friend made me laugh, years ago, when he said "how can women find men attractive? They're all fucking hairy and horrible-looking.". Hard for him to grasp that that's what makes them attractive 😂

Snog · 06/06/2019 08:32

Definitely yes

TirisfalPumpkin · 06/06/2019 09:01

Without a doubt.

I think my life would have been easier; I would be unlikely to have experienced 3 sexual assaults before I was 30. I could have pursued my traditionally male interests and career aspirations without getting discouraged/sexually harassed. My autism might've got diagnosed earlier as it often is in males (which put the rest of my life very much in context and helped me develop coping strategies).

The ideal, of course, would be to be my female self and do as I pleased without all the bullshit - but since that doesn't appear to be feasible, if I had the choice, I'd be born male. I'd be tall and handsome like the men in my family and have a killer waistcoat collection.

HappydaysArehere · 06/06/2019 09:12

No I wouldn’t.
Far too much pressure. For eg. Have you seen the father’s race at school,sports days? Some desperation on show there.Then what about the time I had trouble reversing into a driveway. A neighbour came over to give advise. Would he have done that for a man?
Then the impossible situation where you can’t possibly ask the Way anywhere! Then you have to provide for your family. So does a woman but when things go wrong there is less pressure on her than the man from society’s point of view.

Hey, what about those life boat seats - women and children first! No I suck up the problems of being a woman and accept that life isn’t perfect.

Lamaha · 06/06/2019 09:41

Hey, what about those life boat seats - women and children first! No I suck up the problems of being a woman and accept that life isn’t perfect.

Exactly. Plus we are not expected to fight wars (or at least, it wasn't so in the past); ie, society regards men as more expendable than women. Not that it was a good thing to send men out to kill and be killed. Today being D-Day the horror of what young men had to do still makes me shudder. Nothing can really compare to that.

bingoitsadingo · 06/06/2019 09:59

I don't think I'd mind that much either way, to be honest. I'm quite happy being female, so I probably wouldn't choose to swap. But there are advantages and disadvantages to both, so I really think I'd be fine with whichever I was.

Obviously waking up suddenly as the opposite sex would be quite traumatising. But a lifetime of one or the other? I'm good either way, (especially in the UK).

Flanner0475 · 06/06/2019 11:41

Might get hate for this but I don't really think men have it easier overall. Yes all the things mentioned in this thread are true, but most of you would stay women for a reason. Personally what I don't like about being a man is I feel invisible, I think there's a huge empathy gap, and it's easy to feel that no one cares about you as a man. I also just get on better with women, I find men kind of intimidating and I think women have much much more fulfilling friendships. Plus I love kids and I'm sick of constant judgement for this.

I also massively envy the ease of getting casual sex as a woman. Plenty of each sex arn't interested in this, but the women who are can sleep with a new guy each weekend, and some of my friends do this.

Also wtf is with some of these comments. Men are ugly, women are superior... Do you lot think men talk about women this way? I guess you can see my point about feeling unvalued as a man.

I struggled hugely as a man in many areas, especially career. If I were a woman i would assume this was to blame, maybe if I were a woman I would have struggled more. You can't know can you.

Overall I think I would probably chose to be a woman, I think the bad outweighs the good and being one would suit my personality. There are things I like about being a man though.

Lamaha · 06/06/2019 12:01

I also massively envy the ease of getting casual sex as a woman. Plenty of each sex arn't interested in this, but the women who are can sleep with a new guy each weekend, and some of my friends do this.

See, this is exactly what I noted in one of my posts. This centering of sex. Easy sex, quick sex, lots of orgasms, sex as the criteria for happiness and the good life. IT IS NOT. At least, for many of us it is not.
I do not see how "sleeping with a new guy every weekend" is an advantage of being a woman. It would be easy, yes. But for most women it's not something to strive at. And for many men, it is.

ScottishDoll · 06/06/2019 12:14

I have no idea if I would like to be a man because I have no idea what it feels like to be a man because I am a woman.

I like being me. I like being a woman. I like men too but can't imagine being one any more than I can imagine being a donkey or a tree.

I would like women to be treated differently by male prioritising society but that is another conversation entirely.

Flanner0475 · 06/06/2019 12:44

@Lamaha

I don't deny men are more obsessed with casual sex, but I know plenty of women that like a casual fuck. These are the women I'm saying have it better. This point is obviously not relevant to you, or any other man or woman that is only interested in relationships.

SomeDyke · 06/06/2019 12:59

"See, this is exactly what I noted in one of my posts. This centering of sex. Easy sex, quick sex, lots of orgasms, sex as the criteria for happiness and the good life. IT IS NOT. At least, for many of us it is not."

THIS in spades. After all, who invented and propagates porn and prostitution. Those who seek more and more reliable orgasms for men. Because they are still stuck in thinking that is what sex is and should be and anything else is messy emotional relationships and girly stuff.

Actually, gay men are pretty hooked on casual sex as well, but unlike many men, who actually do see the women they use as not quite human, gay men at least seem to have a little more respect for each other.

And even women who like casual sex don't see the need to insult men in the street, or invent a whole industry around it. So, there we have a whole load of stuff, men who envy women because they supposedly have it easier when it comes to getting casual sex, is often pretty close to resenting women who have the ability to say no and reject them. Whilst not mentioning in the least the very skewed possible consequences of sex when it comes to being female or being male.

But hey, what do I know, I'm just a lesbian who perhaps seeing the extremely skewed mess that is heterosexuality for many women, is jolly glad she isn't! I'd never be a man either, because then I'd have to be straight as well.........

miffmufferedmoof · 06/06/2019 13:12

I would totally choose to be a man.

No periods, bigger, stronger, faster, can be a parent without having to go through pregnancy and birth, living without the constant background fear of sexual assault, no big deal if you need a wee when no toilets are nearby.
I do like being a mum and I enjoyed breastfeeding (after a difficult start) but on balance being a man seems better to me

SoHotADragonRetired · 06/06/2019 13:20

I would love to have the experience of walking around in a male body for a couple of weeks, or even a day, just to see how differently I got treated. I think it would be fascinating.

But long term? No. I actually feel a bit sorry for men sometimes that they have such rigid ridiculous gender roles, such poor social connections and self care skills, that they don't get to experience motherhood... (Yes, that's both rather soft and rather patronising of me, and much of it they do to themselves, but you asked, so.)

I'd rather be me even with all the shit (sexism, sexual assault, miscarriage, pregnancy complications) it's brought with it.

happyhillock · 06/06/2019 13:24

No definitely not, i love being a woman despite all the crap that comes our way, men are fucking up the world, as the saying goes all the trouble in the world is man made,

EleanorOalike · 06/06/2019 13:25

No. From being a toddler I thanked my lucky stars that I was born female. I love feminine things, I love being a woman, I love the fact that I have the potential to carry a child and give birth. I’ve been mistreated and abused by just as many women as men. I had an excellent education and I’ve got a great career. I haven’t felt disadvantaged by my sex at all career wise. I’m single and independent and wouldn’t wish to be a man for a second.

Missillusioned · 06/06/2019 13:26

also massively envy the ease of getting casual sex as a woman. Plenty of each sex arn't interested in this, but the women who are can sleep with a new guy each weekend, and some of my friends do this.

At massive risk to themselves. Sexual encounters are dangerous to women in a way they are not to men. You are making yourself vulnerable in private with a person you don't know well who is guaranteed to be bigger and stronger than you. And if something goes wrong you will be blamed for it and considered to have brought it on yourself.

Also the physical activity of sex is more risky for the woman. She risks pregnancy and many STIs are more easily passed from man to woman than vice versa.

Even if a woman enjoys casual sex, it isn't the easy activity it is for men

dwatsuts · 06/06/2019 13:33

At massive risk to themselves. Sexual encounters are dangerous to women in a way they are not to men. You are making yourself vulnerable in private with a person you don't know well who is guaranteed to be bigger and stronger than you.

Ummm, if you have a sexual encounter as a man, you are also putting yourself in a vulnerable position in which you could find yourself with someone who is bigger and stronger than you.

Do you think all men are 6'5'' muscle men who can shrug off any physical attackers that come at them? Not all men are strong, and if you look at the news, men get beaten up all the time.

Also the physical activity of sex is more risky for the woman. She risks pregnancy

The only part of sex that actually causes pregnancy is vaginal penetration you know... so if you're worried about that... then just avoid vaginal penetration and enjoy everything else instead...

NottonightJosepheen · 06/06/2019 13:37

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ZebrasAreBras · 06/06/2019 13:42

Not all men are strong, and if you look at the news, men get beaten up all the time.

Not by women they're not. They're beaten up by other men. There are always outliers, but on average, men are far bigger, taller and stronger than women.

dwatsuts · 06/06/2019 13:43

A man said to me, 'You could have any man in this room'. I replied 'Most aren't worth havingshock, I wouldn't want them'.

That's... kind of the point... you're in a position that allows you to pick and choose...

Women don't want any man. Most don't view men as vehicles for their own sexual gratification.

Men's sexual gratification is not mutually exclusive with women's sexual gratification. It's not a zero sum game...