A pleasant surprise

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NC for this as very outing.

I came across a number of Tweets from a user whose profile described him as a serving officer with the Met. This is the complaint I sent yesterday:

Jon Killen, a emergency response officer in the MPS and LGBT+ officer, is issuing Tweets that I consider misogynist. His Twitter account (@LDNResponseCop) clearly identifies him professionally, so he cannot argue that he's only offering personal opinions. I cannot think his social media presence is doing anything good for the Met. It seems highly unprofessional. Certainly I would have less confidence were I involved in an incident and had to deal with Jon Killen than I would in a generic officer. Please look at what he's saying - and the response from many LGBT Twitter users who find his Tweets offensive. The police must be seen to be impartial.

I got a call from an inspector this morning. He'd gone through the officer's Tweets and agreed with me. He said it wasn't a disciplinary matter as there were no personally offensive Tweets but that the Tweets definitely overstepped the bounds of what a serving police officer should be saying on social media. A conversation was in order and he would be talking to the officer soon.

Only a small step, but I was pleased the Met seems to have taken it seriously.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF Wait, is that real? Do people believe that?

I like this one.

Yet another new arrival working on the assumption that Mumsnet posters are sure to be barely educated and baby brained. Your sexism is blatant, Zoecb. AWAs always underestimate MN.

Oh yey, more 'but intersex' arguments when it comes to trans matters. This has never ever before been tried. of course, which stereotypes you follow is exactly the same as having a DSD

Your fascination seems to ignore that these ‘mutations’ are variations on human sexual dimorphism

And AWAs who produce the Because intersex” argument really don’t understand the mechanics of genetics and sexual reproduction, and evolution.

In sexual reproduction, there are always mutations - or rather, differences. It’s how species evolve. They really are the exceptions which prove (as in test) the rules.

What is an AWA?

Ohhhh! Thank you

Reported for hate speech ¯\(ツ)/¯

Zoecb, there once was a time that I'd have felt the need to address each of your points, particularly for the lurkers on threads.

But nowadays a post like yours is like watching DARVO (deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender) in real time action. But it's all worn-out. And most readers of this thread will see it for what it is.

Bingo words:
TERFS

'hating on other women'
misogyny
cognitive dissonance
white supremacists
bigotry
binary diffusion on the diamorphic
ignorance and hatred

its like, the worst hatred ever You type like some teenagers I know.

Throwing shit and word salad (most of it appropriated from the very women you're attacking) at a fan and hoping it lands on someone else isn't always a good strategy. The wind tends to be blowing in your direction.

Oh SpartacusAutisticusAHF, does that come in red?

I know, I know Spartacus . I just wanted to collect the word bullshit bingo together so if that post is deleted other's know it wasn't because of some crusading truth that Mumsnet accidentally shut down, but was just a collection of attack-words on women here.

So I see Zoe has no actual points to make or a cohesive argument then? Just frothing.

Projection, much.

And of course, that post is unlikely to disappear with the speed of others.

Mainly, I would suspect, due to the fact that many of us don't report, as it's more useful to have those types of posts up, regardless of whether they break the current FWR guidelines, as they show this up for what it is.

Monitors, you'd better get reporting this one quickly, it's breaking guidelines...uh, oh, yep, not those ones!

Ah, spoke too soon. I wouldn't report, personally. Always useful to see that point of view writ large, all over a board mainly consisting of women fighting for women!

Well, this is a fresh new sound.

LOL I got censored again! Twenty years or so on the internet and this website is the first to ever censor me :-D

Since apparently jovial popular culture references and long words describing important things are described as “word salad” (also, oppressors shouting DARVO when someone stands up for minorities? Not a very subtle gaslighting attempt), I’ll give up on trying to educate about nuance or the honesty of calling a garden implement a section of grass (slurs are only slurs when used against characteristics that are not a choice by the way) and repeat the point that brought me to this thread:

A police officer supporting the equalities act and denouncing bigotry is not something one gets into trouble for, it’s literally part of the job.

I hope the actual hate speech against trans people going on here gets addressed by authorities on the side of the law with more clout than a Mumsnet moderator some day.

I sincerely hope you find some peace and understanding to melt your hatred of our trans sisters (the actual victims/survivors here) at some point. I’m an informed feminist woman and will always speak out against misogyny for the good of ALL women. And all humans for that matter, as misogynistic/anti-women/gatekeeping ideologies hurt everybody from an overall societal point of view. I wish more women would fight for all women and not against women they demand to exclude!

Oh. Were you deleted for jovial pop culture references, you think?

Theres a handy pinned post at the top of FWR with some terms you can't use. Wasn't our idea, but if you want to play in MNHQ's sandbox, you have to obey the rules like we have to.

Shall we get back to the thread?

He said it wasn't a disciplinary matter as there were no personally offensive Tweets but that the Tweets definitely overstepped the bounds of what a serving police officer should be saying on social media. A conversation was in order and he would be talking to the officer soon.

(PS Your appropriation is showing Oppressors shouting DARVO - gaslighting I'd kindly advise you to stop using those words and phrases until you really know what they mean, rather than flinging them at the fan that I previously mentioned!)

Zoe. If you are going to come on here, you really need to be able to make a clear point, based in fact and not call other posters nasty names.

Simply repeating that we are all hateful transphobes, with absolutely no base on which to make the accusation, just won’t wash. You aren’t convincing anyone.