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Dr Mike Webberley suspended

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Brighterf · 18/05/2019 07:06

Seems like Dr Mike Webberley has now also been suspended and he and his wife now plan to take their services overseas. Can't see this reported elsewhere yet though.

www.gaystarnews.com/article/mike-webberley-suspended-trans-kids/

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/05/2019 17:44

Surely continuing to practice whilst suspended must be enough to get them struck off?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/05/2019 17:47

Star Star Star

You lot are amazing

InsulatedCup · 20/05/2019 17:55

It's all going - I imagine it would be considered an "aggravating factor" when considering a sanction.

Actually, surely it is now a matter for the police - it must be a criminal matter to hold yourself out as a doctor when you are suspended from the register?

ThePurportedDoctoress · 20/05/2019 18:19

What powers do the GMC have over a doctor offering services onilne when suspended.

I hope I'm wrong but it looks like they can't do much when the doctor in question is now just a website owned by a Belize-based company. Online GP services are registered and inspected by the Care Quality Commission, but that only applies to UK-based services. On the other hand, the Webberleys will have to register with the local regulatory body in Spain if they intend to provide medical services in Malaga. Can they get a registration when both of them have been suspended in the UK?

From the CQC website:
www.cqc.org.uk/help-advice/help-choosing-care-services/choosing-online-healthcare-service

If it's an online doctor service, check that they are registered with CQC.
Find them using the search box at the top of this page, or call us on 03000 616161.
If they are registered we will inspect to check that they are meeting the legal standards for safe, effective, high-quality and compassionate care. You can read reports of any inspection we have carried out.

Check who is dealing with your query and giving you advice.
Find out who works at the service and who you are dealing with. If they are based in the UK, check that they are registered on the General Medical Council register.
If they are registered overseas what are their details? Doctors who are not GMC-registered will not necessarily work to the same clinical standards.
Are all the doctors at the service registered?

Sexnotgender · 20/05/2019 18:19

Surely continuing to practice whilst suspended must be enough to get them struck off?

You’d bloody well hope so!

ThePurportedDoctoress · 20/05/2019 18:26

I can't vouch for its accuracy, but according to this website UK doctors who relocate to Spain have to register locally and get liability insurance.

www.justlanded.com/english/Spain/Articles/Jobs/Doctors

"Qualifications & Registration

If you’re a general doctor or a specialist doctor in the EU, your qualifications will be recognised under the EU’s Sectoral Directive. General information is available from the EU website – specifically the fact sheets for recognition of medical qualifications in Spain (europa.eu.int), which provide details of what’s required for Spain and an email link for specific queries.

Your starting point in Spain should be the Ministry for Education, Culture and Sport in Madrid; the department you need is the Subdirección General de Títulos, Convalidaciones y Homologaciones. The Spanish Medical Association ( Consejo General de Colegios Oficiales de Médicos, www.cgcom.org) is the professional body for doctors. Although the site is only in Spanish, it contains a list of all the medical colleges throughout the country with their contact details. You must become registered with the college ( colegio) nearest to where you will be practising and must have professional liability insurance, which can be purchased relatively cheaply through the college. "

ChattyLion · 20/05/2019 20:18

You lot are the best Star Gin Star

InsulatedCup · 20/05/2019 22:45

If you are suspended from the register, then you can't call yourself a doctor, so how could you register yourself with the authority in Spain?

RedHoodGirl · 20/05/2019 23:17

It’s my understanding that they’re not practicing, they just own the company, they’re still registered, therefore they can call themselves doctors (because they still are).

OldCrone · 20/05/2019 23:47

It’s my understanding that they’re not practicing

Where have you got this information from? On their websites, gendergp.co.uk and www.mywebdoctor.co.uk, it certainly looks as though they are still practising.

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OldCrone · 20/05/2019 23:54

This is from gendergp.co.uk. The screenshot in the previous post was from mywebdoctor.

There's nothing on either of these sites which says that they are not the practising doctors. On the mywebdoctor site, what else could this mean?

I am a GP and a sexual health and hormone specialist. I can give advice on any medical matter, and I offer safe access to medical advice, prescription medication, blood tests and x-rays, and specialist referrals to your local private hospital as needed.

Dr Mike Webberley suspended
Needmoresleep · 21/05/2019 00:20

Culled from the Clearchemist website just now
www.clearchemist.co.uk/doctor

“Got a rash / sore / something you're not sure about / something you're embarrassed about?

Upload your photo privately here and Dr Webberley will diagnose if possible and advise as appropriate.”

OldCrone · 21/05/2019 00:29

Also from the clearchemist site:

"Ask the Online Doctor
Not sure what you want or what is wrong? Contact Dr Webberley here and arrange an email, telephone or video consultation.

If you would like a consultant's opinion, then Dr Webberley can arrange a telephone consultation at a time to suit you, or a face to face meeting at a private hospital local to you."

Also:
"Clear Chemist’s online doctor, Dr Webberley, can help you with all of your health concerns. There are a number of ways to contact her and she will aim to answer your queries as soon as she can. ‘Online GP Services LTD’ can prescribe or arrange treatment that can be sent to you through the post or arrange for you to pick it up from one of our pharmacies."

Online GP Services Ltd is one of the Webberleys' companies. 'She' indicates that it is Helen Webberley doing the online consultations and prescribing.

www.clearchemist.co.uk/doctor/talk-to-a-doctor

Definitely still practising.

And I'd still like to know where the money's going. Because it's not going through their UK companies.

ThePurportedDoctoress · 21/05/2019 00:57

gendergp.co.uk/service-standards/

Bottom of page
"Online Medical Services – by Dr Webberley
GMC no 2620107"

Status on GP register: This person has been suspended from the Medical Register and may not practise as a doctor in the UK.

bettybeans · 21/05/2019 01:10

I might be more inclined to believe the stuff about it being a vocation and labour of love if there weren't quite so many damning comments about the way in which they conduct themselves and their business. And if they hadn't written that blog peppered with claims of institutional transphobia. That too.

And the story about a psychiatric nurse having to confiscate meds. Jesus. No online doctor should be treating someone with a condition requiring psychiatric treatment or the services of a psych nurse. That's ridiculously irresponsible and clearly miles outside their professional capacity or competence.

It's about the money. Of course it is. I'm just sad that some parents and patients feel so desperate they can't see that.

OldCrone · 21/05/2019 06:47

It's about the money. Of course it is.

Absolutely. Why else does anyone set up a company in Belize?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 21/05/2019 07:00

To help poor gender confused Belizians of course.

OldCrone · 21/05/2019 07:22

I realise that your comment was tongue in cheek, LordProfFekko, but just in case anyone is in any doubt at all about the nature of a Belize based business, they are investment vehicles for foreigners whose owners are expressly forbidden from doing business with Belizians.

www.worldoffshorebanks.com/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-a-belize-offshore-company.php

It's all about asset protection and not paying tax.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 21/05/2019 07:24

I know - I worked in finance for 15 years!

OldCrone · 21/05/2019 07:32

My last post wasn't aimed at you, but at anyone else who might have taken your post at face value. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 21/05/2019 07:49

I know - but the verbal gymnastics of some people who justify complicated financial management is amazing!

Needmoresleep · 21/05/2019 09:34

Money, money money.

It looks as if they were GPs for hire all over the place, seeking out any and every quick money making opportunity.

The whole gender rabbit hole is full of surprises, but one oddity for me has been David TC Davies MP for Monmouth. I met him outside the Linda/Venice court hearing, where he was talking easily to life long rad fems, who presumably worked with him to organise the WPUK Millwall replacement meeting in the House of Commons. He has done a lot more: PM Questions, Parliamentary debate etc. and suffered as a result, with complaints against him and a fair amount of abuse. He told me that it was important to do the right thing.

Why did he fall down the rabbit hole, and why was he the only one? Or rather, why was he, out of the many GC MPs in all parties, the only one to stick his head above the parapet and criticise party and Government policy.

I had assumed that the Tories were allowing a dissenting voice in case they needed to reverse ferret quickly. But I now wonder if they are this astute. Alternatively that there had been a ROGD child in his constituency, causing him to read up.

I now think he started by knowing about the Webberleys, who live in his constituency. Rather than follow the money, he started with the money, and then where it came from. Straight into the wokest rabbit hole of all.

His twitter is curious. Reassuringly old fashioned. Lots of Brexit, which clearly loses him no votes at all, and lots of constituency stuff: local primary school, national nurses day at the local hospital, a visit to a local army base, and retweets of work by the Welsh Affairs Committee, giving the impression that he sees his role as, first and foremost, representing his constituents.

There is virtually no GC stuff. No mention of being quoted by Andrew Gilligan in the Sunday Times. Only a retweet of Maya Forstater thanking Lord Moonie for the meeting he organised in the House of Lords, attaching details, which failed to attract any comment.

So:

  1. The GC debate has not translated into a voter issue in mid-Wales, nor I assume other parts of the country. (The problem presumably is that simplistic accusations of being accused of trans/homo-phobia would be a vote loser in most places, enough reason for many MPs to avoid the debate.)
  1. David TC Davies gives the impression of being a hard working constituency MP, who other than Brexit, focuses on issues that affect his constituency. He seems busy. Yet on GRA reform he has done more than all his parliamentary colleagues combined to ensure that the GC voice was heard.

My guess is that his active support is nothing to do with his political position on other issues. (I recall a certain amount of TRA crowing about him being to the right of the Tory party.) My further guess, and it is only a guess, is that he started by being aware of the Webberley Belize linked money making machine, possibly through local health contacts, and then could not buy into the GenderGP/Mermaids/GIRES/Stonewall narrative that was being peddled everywhere: Government, schools, charities, police and and and.

David TC Davies appears to be a good man. The Standing for Women meeting in the House of Lords seems extraordinary. Lord Moonie, Maya Forstater, Posie, Venice, Tanni Grey Thompson, Andrew Gilligan, David Davies, some top ranking medics and more. A far more interesting, principled and diverse group than many a Parliamentary Committee.

I still wonder what he knows.

LangCleg · 21/05/2019 09:46

I now think he started by knowing about the Webberleys, who live in his constituency.

Blimey. That is something I had not connected at all.

Needmoresleep · 21/05/2019 10:03

I had, but until this thread, had not realised how craven they were. A gastroenterologist trying to sell online mole evaluations in the Gulf, writing online prescriptions for all sorts of ailments, etc.

I respect neither, but assume Susie Green and Mimmymum are believers. Helen GenderGP was with them in lots of the Twitter stuff. I thought she was a believer, and hence a misguided doctor. All those testimonials from grateful transpeople.

I have changed my mind. And assume David Davies got there before me.

BTW I forgot HarrytheOwl from the list of good people at that meeting.

Pthagonal · 21/05/2019 10:21

Needmoresleep I'm not sure that you can call the Monmouth constituency Mid Wales. The GC debate is certainly a voter issue for some of us in South East Wales, but we are hampered by usually being in a Labour stronghold. Tactical voting or spoiled ballots seems to be the only way to make dissenting voices heard.

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