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Expert professional Dr Ray Blanchard's twitter account has been locked

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kesstrel · 12/05/2019 09:12

twitter.com/BJontry/status/1127388515606482944

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/05/2019 10:43

Hang on a minute - Jacky's post which literally just linked to a you tube video explaining blanchards work got deleted?

wtaf?

the monitors really do froth at the idea of AGP don't they? which is daft. People have understood forever that one of the motivations of some males who feel compelled to comply with feminine stereotypes of appearance is sexual.

it's really silly to try to pretend it isn't the case.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/05/2019 10:47

And yes, TRAs hate Blanchard

he has spent years investigating the motivations of transitioners

let's just consider those two sentences, both of which are true

quite revealing aren't they?

DpWm · 12/05/2019 10:49

NeurotrashWarrior
I believe Blanchard has identified agp in some trans men.

Can everyone stop being silly please. AGP is sexual arousal from imagining yourself as a woman.
You can't do this of you're already a woman, (or if you do it doesn't matter because you're already a woman, like)

The *other way round" a woman imagining to be a man for sexual kicks, it's called
Autoandrophelia.
It's vanishingly rare.
Some transmen may have it but even if they do have it aren't wrecking marriages en masse or demanding entry into male only spaces to satisfy their sexual kicks en mass.
The AGPs however, when you dig down are prolific in the TRA AWA movement.

Datun · 12/05/2019 10:51

My post claiming chat about the very existence of AGP gets shut down and denied has been deleted.

Plus

Hang on a minute - Jacky's post which literally just linked to a you tube video explaining blanchards work got deleted?

All the lolz!!

TRAs really need to grasp the own goal concept. Truly.

Monitors - telling people not to look makes them look harder.

👀

NeurotrashWarrior · 12/05/2019 10:54

Yes Dp, that's it. I didn't realise it had another name, but thank you that's clear.

I'm commenting on the process of how visual imagery around us impacts us.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 12/05/2019 11:07

You know you can't stop us talking dont you

And that is literally all we are doing

There are other places this stuff is being discussed...private forums, Reddit, Kiwifarms

You can shut down talking on this very OPEN and RESTRAINED forum, the mods here are very hot, quite rightly, about keeping the debate civilised...but all that is doing is pushing people to look at other forums which some of us find quite horrifying in their 'style' of debate

I mean, if this is how you want to spend your sunday crack on, just seems a bit ...well boring I suppose

Datun · 12/05/2019 11:19

Anyway, I copied in my post. So I will reiterate the sentiment, and remove anything that could ever be construed as a violation of guidelines.

Some transactivists openly hate Blanchard. He has decades of research about AGP. From self reporting transwomen.

When I first looked at this, I noticed a fairly successful job of hiding AGP online. With an overwhelming number of claims that it was made up. And even if it wasn't, it wasn't really like that, it was incredibly rare, women have it too, etc.

Blanchard continues to talk publicly about gender dysphoria and AGP. And now people everywhere can understand it and the role it can play in transitioning.

For experience of autogynephilia, from the self-confessed autogynephiles, see #GirlsLikeUs #TransGirls.

It's as scandalous as all the rest that he has been banned. Hopefully Harry the Owl suing the police, will help to make this a thing of the past.

LangCleg · 12/05/2019 11:37

The ironic thing is that Blanchard's work was absolutely instrumental in the medical profession agreeing to transition late onset heterosexual males. Without him, many of the current transitioners would still be being screened out.

Having got what they want from him, it seems that the extremist activists are now wanting to scrub his work from the public record in favour of the only acceptable narrative: an innate gendered soul.

pombear · 12/05/2019 11:37

I was still in sleepy Sunday mode earlier on this morning - not sure if I was dreaming but I was sure I saw a link to a Benjamin Boyce interview with Ray Blanchard earlier on in this thread. Is that what's been deleted? Seriously? Women - stop looking at things, it's dangerous!

I had a conversation recently with an older family member who pondered 'so where have all the transvestites gone?' It only took a couple of 'thought-beats' for them, given we were having the conversation about Blanchard's work, the very obvious #girlslikeus images all over twitter, for it to become more of a rhetorical question for them!

Hulo · 12/05/2019 11:54

Would the men who have read Blanchard's work on AGP and identified themselves in it be censored too, now? I follow some of them and they're very clear about the role AGP played and plays in their feelings and desire to transition

hoodathunkit · 12/05/2019 12:08

The war on reason continues

Outrageous

Upzadaizy · 12/05/2019 12:14

Reminds me of when they dogpiled Andrew Wakefield

Hugely different.

Wakefield’s research was not peer reviewed. He was a GP not a more highly qualified researcher or consultant. And he’s been struck off by his professional licensing body

Blanchard is a very different case. And his Twitter thread is rational and evidence-based.

hoodathunkit · 12/05/2019 12:18

Reminds me of when they dogpiled Andrew Wakefield

false equivalence

Wakefield is a notorious quack, networked with other quacks and yoga cults and their celebrity followers.

Blanchard is a rationalist and voice of reason, a rare oasis of sanity in an ocean of quackery, fake news and social engineering.

Sexnotgender · 12/05/2019 12:19

false equivalence

Indeed, and it may be seen by some as a deliberate conflation...

JackyHolyoake · 12/05/2019 12:32

If you go to You Tube, search for Benjamin A Boyce. Then click on the link to his You Tube site and select Videos from the horizontal menu..

Scroll down that page and you will find the video of the interview that Boyce did with Blanchard.

despairingofsome · 12/05/2019 12:39

Ugh, just took a look at the #girlslikeus thread. Truly nauseating and not like any real woman I know. They really are just blowup doll caricatures.

SophoclesTheFox · 12/05/2019 12:50

Here we have Philip Bunce admiring Pippa Bunce. They are one and the same person, who chose this photograph as an expression of the essence of Phil and Pips.

I’m not saying it illustrates anything, but...you know.

Expert professional Dr Ray Blanchard's twitter account has been locked
SophoclesTheFox · 12/05/2019 12:51

It’s astonishing that twitter considers themselves to be a competent judge of the merit of medical opinions from experts. Talk about overreach!

Genderfreelass · 12/05/2019 12:52

Oh not sure what I did wrong except a little typo. I had another post deleted on another thread maybe because it had a link 😕 do TRA mass report on MN like on twitter?

Genderfreelass · 12/05/2019 12:55

Ooh Soph that is creepy AF ewww is that AGP in action?

SophoclesTheFox · 12/05/2019 13:04

genderfree, yes, they do and yes, I think it is. There in plain sight.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 12/05/2019 13:09

gender

Fuuuuck

If we are able to report types and spelling mistakes then mumsnet is fucked

The literacy on here (including mine) is dire!

terfsandwich · 12/05/2019 13:14

Do they call themself a lesbian?
Do they have kids, wife?
Do they call their coming out being a 'girl'?
Do they insist on being included in a definition of woman they invented?
Tick, tick, tick

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/05/2019 13:40

I’ve seen that Pips Bunce picture before, but fuck me, it does make the motivations of that individual quite clear, doesn’t it?

Justhadathought · 12/05/2019 13:53

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