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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

WTF Times: 'schoolboys die in cliff fall'

137 replies

Nowisthemonthofmaying · 09/05/2019 06:54

How about: schoolboys AND THEIR MOTHER are brutally murdered by violent man?

I am so sick of the way this stuff is reported. If murdering your family is a valid response to 'not being able to see a way forward' then why aren't people doing it all the time?
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GassyAss · 09/05/2019 07:38

FFS. The story is a man planned to kill a woman and her two children. She doesn’t even get a mention in the headline.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 09/05/2019 07:39

Title should be "Murder suicide - man selfishly kills his wife, 2 sons and himself because he can't work his problems out"

Fucksake. Angry

powershowerforanhour · 09/05/2019 07:39

Just another family annihilator. Again.

Myusernameismud · 09/05/2019 07:42

It was Level up, the Feminist organisation who worked to change the way DV is reported in the media. I have my own issues with Level Up (they believe TWAW) but it will be interesting to see what their view on this is, and if it meets the new guidelines.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/05/2019 07:42

This article also writes about the "sympathy" shown towards the family annihialator (point 10).

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/anatomy-of-family-murder-killing-spree-home-invasion-a7639966.html

Soubriquet · 09/05/2019 07:43

That is disgusting

No mention of his poor wife, and the fact that they “fell” makes it sound like an accident rather than suicide/murder

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 09/05/2019 07:45

I don't think the 'why' should even be in the headline.

As it is though the excuse/ justification gets higher billing than the wife's brutal murder

Floisme · 09/05/2019 07:45

Compare and contrast the Daily Mail

I can't see it at all in The Guardian (looks like they last covered it in May 2018t).

Funny old world.

Loopytiles · 09/05/2019 07:48

I saw this and am going to complain.

It also refers to the father having “lost faith in god”.

The way family annihilators are reported is shit.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/05/2019 07:48

Family annihilation is not the sole preserve of the man; there have also been cases of women doing this to family members too. This is a societal issue and one we cannot readily put down to some random act of lunacy.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 09/05/2019 07:51

What the fuck is the relevance to the value of their house?

I thought there had recently been guidelines agreed around media reporting of domestic violence?

Awful reporting.

BeardyButton · 09/05/2019 07:54

So. Bloody. Awful. And its all about his narrative. His loss of faith. His finances. NONE of these things are relevant. Its not a multiple suicide. Its a murder.

thelastgoldeneagle · 09/05/2019 07:54

I don't often like the Daily Mail, but they got it right this time.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 09/05/2019 07:54

www.leewaysupport.org/blog/new-guidelines-for-journalists-reporting-domestic-abuse/

Link to a piece about the IPSO guidelines above.

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 09/05/2019 07:56

That's appalling. I recently watched a BBC series on the hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper, and I kept thinking, well, thankfully those 1970s attitudes have mostly gone.

But no. Alive and well at the Times.

Loopytiles · 09/05/2019 07:57

What is the journalist’s twitter handle?

ZandathePanda · 09/05/2019 07:58

As a similar issue, Daily Mail is horrendous with suicide stories. It always gives the method of suicide in the title, sensational reporting and basically does everything the Samaritans guidelines say not to. Suicide has a big contagion element so, particularly with young people, the Daily Mail are vile for their lack of standards. Maybe the paper was following different guidelines or respecting family wishes? You don’t get very far complaining unless you are related to the family.

BrainScience · 09/05/2019 07:59

attila I’m sure there are a few cases of women doing this. It sure as hell wouldn’t have a headline saying boys die in cliff fall in a national paper though.

ZandathePanda · 09/05/2019 07:59

Though sounds like it was bad journalism

MorrisZapp · 09/05/2019 07:59

I'm no fan of lurid, sensationalist headlines but that article has chilled me to the bone. The mentioning of the stabbed wife as if she was a broken object randomly found in the house is beyond disturbing.

How must her family feel, reading that? Those poor, poor boys. I must be honest, I think the Times usually showcases the absolute best writing in Britain today, no other paper can touch it for journalistic quality. But this, this is a bewildering lapse. Has the journalist responded to tweets?

Nowisthemonthofmaying · 09/05/2019 08:00

Good idea to complain - I will do the same.

I just hate the way that they put everything in the passive tense - "they had been killed unlawfully in a brutal attack" - yes, by their FATHER

They manage to just erase the fact that he was responsible at all

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Loopytiles · 09/05/2019 08:03

It mentions that Laura de Figueira had been stabbed 60 times, and that sedatives had been found in her and the DCs’ bodies, in a passive tense.

It doesn’t use the word murder at all.

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Loopytiles · 09/05/2019 08:06

“Sean Cummings, the coroner, described the deaths of the boys and their mother as an “inexplicable puzzle”. He said they been killed unlawfully in a particularly savage and brutal attack and recorded that Mr De Faria had died by suicide.

This is a terribly sad case and I think DS Flynn put it very well when he said that Adelino simply could not see a way forward,” Mr Cummings said.“

Mr Cummings’ quote isn’t good either. Brutal murder, not an “inexplicable puzzle”. Focus on the perpetrator, not his victims.

CaledonianSleeper · 09/05/2019 08:07

I agree that the reporting here is terrible - but I think the root cause is the Coroner’s attitude:
“Sean Cummings, the coroner, described the deaths of the boys and their mother as an “inexplicable puzzle”.
“...Adelino simply could not see a way forward,” Mr Cummings said.”
Hmm

Helmetbymidnight · 09/05/2019 08:10

astonishing reporting- agree with the comments in this thread.

i imagine the journalist will say he doesnt write the headlines but the attitude is implicit throughout the piece: 'poor guy'