Swansea Pride

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Has anyone seen the Get The L Out women at Swansea Pride today?
twitter.com/objectuk/status/1124626303938965504?s=21

The police have removed lesbians from the event for stating what women don’t have penises.

Why 'as usual'?

Have the police not been trained in 'equality' by lobby groups who claim that a male can be a woman if he feels like one - and it is a hate crime to point out otherwise.

Have they not been seen to be heavy handed in the whole debate - calling/visiting people who have committed the hideous crime to calling a male person a man - whilst stating that they are understaffed?

Any wonder that sadly their reputation is becoming tarnished and people are trusting them less?

As usual completely inaccurate reporting

People who witnessed it say otherwise. Considering the reputation of police, I know who I believe.

I have absolutely no reason to lie. Believe what you want.

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Considering the reputation of police, I know who I believe.

My childhood vicar used to say "think me a monster and that which I do will seem monstrous".

They obviously weren't removed from the event, they were moved from the path of the parade.
They were not arrested and were rightly allowed to continue to protest with their banners.

Bluntly put, what's the problem here?
That they were moved at all?

And the claim that police are being trained by lobby groups is accurate.
Staff in my force receive Stonewall/Mermaids diversity training plus when the GRA consultation was active last October, my force sent a link to all employees with the quick-fill Stonewall version, no balance to the other one

Gronky loads of vicars have done monstrous things, with institutional protection

Ditto the police

Not sure what point you're trying to make there

Blind trust in people with power is a terrible idea

Believe what you want

Who. Believe who I want.

Blind trust in people with power is a terrible idea

As is blind mistrust, though I would extend this to include anyone and everyone, in both cases.

Women have every reason not to trust the police. That’s not ‘blind mistrust’ that’s ‘lived experience’.

I have absolutely no reason to lie.

You posted that literally minutes after stating you are a Police officer that policed Pride Swansea.

Yup. I was a police officer that ensured the safety of all involved.

For blind mistrust read item eyes.

Do you believe for example that black men in poor parts of USA should trust the police?

Out of intetest.

The met have terrible form around honesty, ethics, collusion, bribery, racism, and mishandling of sex offences.

Yes I am sceptical of the police. This is healthy.

You think the Lawrence family should have put their faith in the cops?

Ffs

Item eyes = healthy scepticism

Women have every reason not to trust the police.

There's a wide gulf between not blindly trusting and automatically distrusting. Based upon the video evidence, it would seem that the police bashers here have acted in a way which deserves mistrust.

Plenty of police officers at protests have not been interested in safety of protesters.

Some may be, obviously.

Some are not.

Some take their ID numbers off, or used to.

I can remember a murder committed by a police officer at a protest. That was covered up.

Blind trust in authority is v foolish.

Gronky what your vicar said

What year was that, roughly?

It's a very very intetesting thing to say.

Large tracts of the population do not trust the police.

Generally minorities. In this context women and girls are included.

The police work to maintain order of society for benefit of their paymasters.

That is obvious to anyone with half a brain and who reads the news.

Women not complying is seen as a very specific threat.

So we should have faith in the police?

What year was that, roughly?

1975-1977, it couldn't have been later or earlier. I was too young to recall the specific cause but it was something to do with justifications given for violent xenophobia, claiming that the victims in question engaged in unsavoury practices. The other half of the quote was "think me a saint and that which I do will seem saintly".

Large tracts of the population do not trust the police.

I believe that part of the problem is that this is cyclical (not that I'm specifically blaming either party): good policing relies upon community engagement. If there's a mistrust in the police then this engagement won't take place so the police will be less able to act effectively and, in doing so, seem uninterested in maintaining law and order.

My friends daughter was raped in public while very drunk by someone she knew, friends. A member of the public even called it in. When she woke up and realised her and her Mum called the police. They came round and asked her Mum to leave the room, she was 17, and one of them said to her ‘ you’re very calm for someone who was supposedly raped’. They never followed up on the call from the member of the public. My friend, black and living on a council estate, withdrew her report.

I will never trust the police in this country again.

JessicaWakefieldSV, I'm very sorry that your friend's daughter had to experience that and I wish that she had felt able to report their woeful mishandling of the situation so that others wouldn't have to suffer that indignity.

When I suffered an attempted robbery and had to hide from my attackers in a corner shop, Thames Valley Police attended very quickly and escorted me back to the guesthouse I was staying in. Without that help, I don't know what I'd have done.

That is but one of the many stories I could share about the police.