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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Swansea Pride

146 replies

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 04/05/2019 12:16

Has anyone seen the Get The L Out women at Swansea Pride today?
twitter.com/objectuk/status/1124626303938965504?s=21

The police have removed lesbians from the event for stating what women don’t have penises.

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GabrielleNelson · 05/05/2019 11:10

Bespin, if this parade had been taking place during the small hours of the morning when children could be expected to be at home and asleep you might have a point, but if this is a fun event for all the family, don't you think highly sexualised outfits and behaviour are completely inappropriate?

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/05/2019 11:11

that they are proud of who they are and wish to express that. but im sure mumsnet does not approve of people doing that

Oh for gods sake. Proud of BDSM and hypersexualised behaviour? Bore off

PencilsInSpace · 05/05/2019 11:13

There's a big difference between being 'proud of who you are' and getting your kink on in broad daylight in the middle of the street in front of children.

I find it disturbing when people can't understand this.

Bespin · 05/05/2019 11:14

GabrielleNelson have you ever been to pride ????? lol those outfits are some of the tamist. is it more you have a problem with pride would you like us all to wear sensible outfits to express who we are.

Bespin · 05/05/2019 11:21

i mean this man as dildos all over him and that woman is basically naked. not at swansea pride it was a bit chilly for that sort of malarkey but if you think the other stuff was bad your really not going to like that either.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/05/2019 11:24

It’s not just bad, it’s completely unacceptable and, I thought, against the law.

Bespin · 05/05/2019 11:28

well guessing will not be seeing you are leeds pride this year then jessica.

PencilsInSpace · 05/05/2019 11:31

People should stop taking kids then.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/05/2019 11:34

is it more you have a problem with pride would you like us all to wear sensible outfits to express who we are.

So if we don’t think it’s appropriate to have people in BDSM gear being dragged around on a chain and dildos everywhere, we must hate pride or expect ‘sensible outfits’. There is more than those two options. I’ve been to pride before in NZ, never seen anything like what those police officers were holding on chains.

Bespin · 05/05/2019 11:36

maybe you can campaign for that pencil, or maybe we can have conversations with young people around sexuality in an open and honest age appropriate way.

your right though no one has to take their children to pride if they dont want too. you can easily avoid it.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/05/2019 11:37

maybe we can have conversations with young people around sexuality in an open and honest age appropriate way

Who is we? There’s a time and place and at no time do I want BDSM to be normalised to my child. Do you have children?

Genderfreelass · 05/05/2019 11:39

That pic with the kids looking at the rear end of "pups" not really age appropriate. That lesbians are banned and that is encouraged is imo is pretty warped. Pride used to be an LGB event, people wanting to be free to love who they loved, now it seems to be about kinks, whether it's thinking you are an animal, the other sex...

Bespin · 05/05/2019 11:40

did you see these two at NZ pride lol

Swansea Pride
PencilsInSpace · 05/05/2019 11:48

It reminds me of that article in The Onion a few years ago:

"They kept chanting things like, 'We're here, we're queer, get used to it!' and 'Hey, hey, we're gay, we're not going to go away!'" Orosco said. "All I can say is, I was used to it, but now, although I'd never felt this way before, I wish they would go away."

I know a lot of women who have stopped going over the years because it's now such a pervy-men fest.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/05/2019 11:55

I went to Pride in the good old days, back when I used to get followed around by guys who gay bashed my housemates, back when being who you are in public didn’t mean bringing your kink to family friendly events.

thatdamnwoman · 05/05/2019 11:57

Yup, I've lost people I thought were friends because I stopped going to Mardi Gras in Cardiff years ago. I was a lesbian in my 40s/ 50s and it was all boy bands and drag queens.

The final year I attended I was handing out promoting a lesbian group I was involved with and for every 10 women I approached, nine said 'I'm not a lesbian' in a slightly shocked way. Cardiff Mardi Gras is just another public event where straight people and families went for a day out to look at the gays, giggle at the sex toys and listen to second rate boy bands.

thatdamnwoman · 05/05/2019 11:58

I was handing out leaflets...

GabrielleNelson · 05/05/2019 12:33

OK, on Twitter it's now been confirmed that image of the police holding a human dog on a leash wasn't from Swansea Pride yesterday. Don't know when and where it was taken. Point still stands, though. Fetishes fine, lesbians not fine.

GabrielleNelson · 05/05/2019 12:38

I don't think the other one was either. Pride somewhere, sometime, but not yesterday.

thatdamnwoman · 05/05/2019 12:48

Thanks for that, Gabrielle. Will have to try and trace it back.

clitherow · 05/05/2019 12:55

The Yogykarta Principles which have not yet been accepted by the UN (mainly because of African and Asian opposition) but which are frequently cited by governments in court cases state:

States shall

b) Ensure in particular that notions of public order, public morality, public health and public security are not employed to restrict any exercise of the rights to peaceful assembly and association solely on the basis that it affirms diverse sexual orientations or gender identities;
(Principle 20)
yogyakartaprinciples.org/principle-20/

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 05/05/2019 14:22

Was this the one where there are photos of police posing with human 'police dogs'? Very creepy.

MenuPlant · 05/05/2019 15:00

Looking at pics it would seem the alphabet soup can be reduced to K for kink + D for dick.

That pic with the men on all fours with the little girls with their rainbow flags following is just awful.

As usual is men and their sexuality that are front and centre, people need to pretend to be ok with it or leave.

Same as page 3, nuts etc just with a rainbow hue.

Is all about men and sex.

AnyOldPrion · 05/05/2019 15:29

I live outside the UK and I suspect Pride may still be more traditional here, but my neighbours took their twelve year old, newly out, lesbian daughter to Pride and I thought it was a very positive thing that they could.

If it’s become explicit and flagrantly sexual, then perhaps it needs to start being 18+ and stop pretending to be a family event.

ultrababy · 05/05/2019 15:35

Well I am a Police officer that policed Pride Swansea. As usual completely inaccurate reporting. At no point were they removed from the event. They were sat in the highway blocking the entire parade. They were moved off the highway and allowed to protest on the pavement. HTH