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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How would you feel about having a male midwide

999 replies

Lardlizard · 11/04/2019 09:25

Just interested in the points of view

OP posts:
JessicaWakefieldSV · 11/04/2019 10:14

intimate care!

Smotheroffive · 11/04/2019 10:14

Men pose a risk to women,never mind vulnerable women which can and does jeopardise labour

JessicaWakefieldSV · 11/04/2019 10:14

Is lesbians assaulting vulnerable women a common thing? No? So why are you comparing lesbians to men then?

This ^ it’s not on.

Lamaha · 11/04/2019 10:14

Why are you all assuming that as a male he is reveling in looking at the female body sexually!!

Totally irrelevant. I doubt that any male would have seual thoughts about a woman in labour.
My preference for female rests solely on the prejudice that I believe that females are more likely to be able to empathise with me, feel into me and my needs, be more sensitive. I do accept that there might be some exceptional male midwives who choose that profession for the very reason that they are extremely empathetic, much more so than the average male. It's the average male I would not want around me at a time like this -- even if he is extremely competent from a medical point of view, it's the sensitivity that most men lack.

Youngandfree · 11/04/2019 10:14

@BadPennyNoBiscuit that is what ppl are saying they are words taken from a PP!!

Youngandfree · 11/04/2019 10:15

@Lamaha BS!! Men can have empathy, that is just a get out clause!!

BadPennyNoBiscuit · 11/04/2019 10:15

Its depressing how much work has been done around coercive control and domestic violence, and yet threads still fill up with comments from people who can't see there's a problem for some women.

Bowlofbabelfish · 11/04/2019 10:16

They are assuming that ALL men are out to “gawp” at them, make them and take advantage!!

No - they aren’t. We don’t assume all men are rapists, but we still exclude men as a class from certain places like women’s changing rooms (for now anyway..) because you can’t tell and bad men don’t wear badges or announce their intentions.

A woman being wary of a man in labour is the same. He may well be a professional with 0% risk, but she has the right to her bodily autonomy and retains her right to say ‘this individual cannot do this procedure.’

Many women would have no problem with a male during labour. Many do have a problems with it and that should be respected. There’s no comparable male medical event where the world and his dog traipse through and gawp, or men aren’t asked for permission, or are expected to accept whomever doing whatever.

Patient bodily autonomy and ongoing informed consent is really important

Youngandfree · 11/04/2019 10:17

@JessicaWakefieldSV I KNOW that is my point!!! It’s not on just like assuming a male midwife is not as good, or as caring as a female one!!

SkinnywannabeKBH · 11/04/2019 10:17

I wouldn't mind at all. They are fully trained just like a female midwife so I don't see what the problem is. They are there to do a job, so it shouldn't matter whether they are make or female.
Those of you who have issues with a male midwife, would you feel the same if a female was a mechanic for your car? Generally a male dominated career but of course there are female mechanics....its the same thing.

Redorangeyellowgreen · 11/04/2019 10:17

I don't think it would bother me.

One thing that did bother me when I was pregnant was that all the consultants at my hospital were male and the more junior staff female.

CapeDaisy5 · 11/04/2019 10:18

No, not for me. Not a male GP if it's gyno issued, I ask for a female.

Roomba · 11/04/2019 10:18

I wouldn't mind having a male midwife, but I would want the option to be able to decline this, if I wished. Many women would not be happy with this, for multiple reasons, and they should be able to request a female midwife/nurse/doctor if they want (and men should able able to request male medics if they want too).

Bluestitch · 11/04/2019 10:18

Those of you who have issues with a male midwife, would you feel the same if a female was a mechanic for your car?

Do mechanics routinely put their fingers up your vagina to check your cervix? Do they touch your breasts to assist with feeding?

HalfBloodPrincess · 11/04/2019 10:19

Those of you who have issues with a male midwife, would you feel the same if a female was a mechanic for your car?

Ffs

RepealTheGRA · 11/04/2019 10:19

Those of you who have issues with a male midwife, would you feel the same if a female was a mechanic for your car?

WTAF

BadPennyNoBiscuit · 11/04/2019 10:20

SkinnywannabeKBH
If you were from a religion or culture that forbade it, or were in an abusive relationship and your partner kicked off about it, or had survived sexual abuse and had PTSD, then would you see a problem?

What does it take for some of you to have any empathy for other women and what they are coping with?

JessicaWakefieldSV · 11/04/2019 10:20

I KNOW that is my point!!! It’s not on just like assuming a male midwife is not as good, or as caring as a female one!!

That was NOT your point. And you have completely missed why women might want someone of the same sex giving intimate care, a right both men and women have. Bringing lesbians into it as a comparison is disgusting lesbophobia. Lesbians are not sexually assaulting women, 98% of sexual assaults are committed by men. Men do not have the same bits or go through pregnancy. You can be fine with it if you want, but using lesbians as a stick to beat women with who are not comfortable with it, is absolutely gross.

Youngandfree · 11/04/2019 10:21

Look let’s face it MOST women have a birthing partner and are not on there own..so I don’t see why have a male midwife would be an issue, good god all they actually care about is getting baby out safely!! Then they always have a second midwife at the end anyway so they are not on their own in any way shape or form,

My first Post Was supposed to be as annoying as you all seem to have found it!! I found the OPS question and other PPS points just as rude Imo.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 11/04/2019 10:21

Those of you who have issues with a male midwife, would you feel the same if a female was a mechanic for your car?

Wtf? This is the feminist board. Are you actually comparing a car to a woman’s body? Don’t be so disgusting.

BarbieJellyBabyBrain · 11/04/2019 10:22

Those of you who have issues with a male midwife, would you feel the same if a female was a mechanic for your car? Generally a male dominated career but of course there are female mechanics....its the same thing.

😂😂😂

decimalpoint · 11/04/2019 10:22

Personally I wouldn’t want a male midwife, ditto a male nurse to do a cervical smear or any other aspect of intimate care. I understand some women are fine with it though.

Thesearmsofmine · 11/04/2019 10:22

I wouldn’t have an issue with it but I understand why others might prefer a female midwife.

Bluestitch · 11/04/2019 10:23

Look let’s face it MOST women have a birthing partner and are not on there own..so I don’t see why have a male midwife would be an issue

What does having a birthing partner, somebody you know and trust, have to do with male midwives?

JessicaWakefieldSV · 11/04/2019 10:23

My first Post Was supposed to be as annoying as you all seem to have found it!! I found the OPS question and other PPS points just as rude Imo.

I find you lacking in empathy and a misogynist who is trying to say women’s boundaries around their bodies is wrong. You are therefore, IMO, actively enforcing patriarchal ideas and an enemy to feminism.

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