"If recording my own rape isn't enough evidence, what is?"

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www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/young-woman-who-recorded-herself-being-raped-by-her-ex-slams-his-acquittal/?fbclid=IwAR0wquQcg11GhrXG2mR0zdeqXrLsW6SaagR_zcTVE4pB5t90sK3At9fvQQs

NC for this because it’s in my local area and don’t want my other very outing posts linked together.

I’ve had enough of this shit. Seriously. What can we do? I feel like every day we read about rapists and abusers walking free, and very rarely hear about them ever being punished.

I'm just going by the CPS figures.

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/sep/23/revealed-less-than-a-third-of-young-men-prosecuted-for-are-convicted

"Of the cases that were prosecuted, 42% did not result in a conviction."

Not just a low reporting rate. Most reported rapes don't proceed to court.

I think someone is itching for some women to get riled. I think people who post shit like that can get knotted.

Is it important to comment on this thread about protecting innocent men by having multiple other guilty men freed? We are talking about innocent women who have been horrifically attacked. How do we protect them and give them justice?

The good news is its more like 1000 women are raped and see no recourse in order to see that only the most violent awful case closed perfect victim rapists see any prison time.

most trials do end up with a conviction

No, they don't.

Also: this is a grey rock.

Did you mean to link to a piece with a headline Less than a third of young men prosecuted for rape are convicted AverageMan?

Most rape cases don't even make it to court. 9/10 cases are not even reported. And that's because of stuff like this.

This man says it is better that 10 women are raped than have 1 man have a bad time.

Like I say good news is its more like 1000.

Plenty of people think rape should basically be legal if the victim is over about 12 and under about 60, and is not killed, and even if they are killed probably even then sometimes there should be leeway for the poor chap that did it.

And the man who has a bad time is Overwhelmingly likely to be guilty.

So it reads

It's better that 10 women are raped than 1 rapist goes to prison... I think.

Definitely a grey rock moment.
Recommend a quick look at AS too...

Perhaps time to remember this harrowing documentary:

"If recording my own rape isn't enough evidence, what is?"

That was the question. The answer is that, given most trials end in a conviction, clearly there is no lack of evidence in the majority of trials.

It's unwise to single out this one case as a reason to seek reform of the law. We don't know all the facts surrounding it.

I didn't see it Lang, thanks for the link.

Wow.

V interesting article about not proven verdict in Scotland and a woman who won a civil case after not proven in criminal court.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-46136824

That was the question. The answer is that, given most trials end in a conviction, clearly there is no lack of evidence in the majority of trials.

And in one part of the UK, (N Ireland) the conviction rate once it reaches trial is only 15%.

Horrifying and terrifying

I didn't see it Lang, thanks for the link.

It's awful to watch but it's arranged in a way that really makes you see how the process fails, from reporting, to CPS, through to the trial. All the women are failed at different points, bar one.

I'm 5ft 2, at the time I weighed 7.5 stone. My ex was a muscular, fit, 6ft 4 military man. Imagine the damage that can be done when he's in a rage, internally and externally.
He told the police I liked it rough, they initially believed him, I wasn't protected.
Have you heard the term brothers in arms?The abuse of me became a group jolly.
I was too traumatised to leave my home for over a year, nevermind go to court.
They are called heroes and I'm the one with PTSD.
Men are allowed to do what they want to women with impunity and I'm sick of it.

The only way we can beat these 'men' is to in fact become more like them. Take justice into our own hands- be manipulative, physically intimidating and guarded.

It's depressing you have to become what you hate to avoid it.

I’m sorry but it’s nuts to say that it’s ok for one innocent man to be convicted of rape to ensure that 10 guilty ones are as well, or a hundred, or a thousand. That’s not on andyou can fuck off woth your utilitarian bullshit. Not ok. It’s appalling that you think it is acceptable to give the courts the power to improson innocent people. Two wrongs do no make a right. You cannot stop men from raping apparently but you can choose not to uphold the rule of law by opposing arbitrary imprisonments.

However, that doesn’t mean that the system is even remotely adequate. Lay persons simply aren’t qualified to make decisions on rape. A panel of experts as pp mentioned above is the way forward. This will improve the quality of our legal system and increase conviction rates without compromising the integrity of our legal system.

I’m sorry but it’s nuts to say that it’s ok for one innocent man to be convicted of rape to ensure that 10 guilty ones are as well, or a hundred, or a thousand

Ive missed who said this...who said it?

Very few men are falsely convicted of any crime.

Many many many men who are guilty go free.

So in fact it means that 10 women should be raped before I rapist is convicted.

In fact for maximum safety for men, just make rape legal. Then no men will be falsely convicted. Hooray!!!

Ive reread the thread twice now

Im gonna be pissed if no one said it

finnmcool, it's so utterly awful that there is no support for you and no way for you to feel able to report what was done to you.