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Caroline farrow support thread 2

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ilovejeffgoldblum · 04/04/2019 10:09

Hi I'm a long time lurker, who read with disgust the last thread and wants to send Thanks, to caro. I've scanned since last thread finished for new one but no luck! Hope no one minds if I start one!

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EvilBug · 01/05/2019 12:44

De-lurking to show my support, and have donated Flowers

R0wantrees · 01/05/2019 12:49

Chose Gofund rather than blog/PayPal because I want people who are objecting to see that public fund rise.
And if there are any leftovers you are welcome to spend it on champagne and baths of asses milk as far as I am concerned Caro

This GoFund is ongoing thing I understand, started in December 2018 prior to anything connected with S. Hayden or S. Green. The implication is that it will continue to be ongoing, no?

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"Caroline Farrow has been witnessing to her Christian faith in the public square, notably on UK national TV, for some years now. She has done so with great courage and her witness is beautiful and clear. Here is Caroline's website with more examples of her work.
www.carolinefarrow.net/

Increasingly, Caroline has come under disturbing attack.

A team of us would like to raise money for a legal fund for Caroline, so that she can retain the services of a lawyer, who will be able to respond to these attacks in a timely and effective manner.

If money were no object Caroline would long since have hired a lawyer. She needs legal representation, support and advice. We sincerely hope that, together, we can make that happen." (continues)

FormerElsewhereModerator · 01/05/2019 13:50

Namechanged for this.

As my user name suggests, I used to be a moderator on another (now defunct) baby and parenting forum. It was less anonymous than MN in that most people used their real first names, and 10 years ago, we were all much less clued up about hiding your real identity online.

Caroline was one of our regular posters. From a moderator's point of view she was a nightmare - not because of what she said or wrote, but because of other people's reactions to her. Caroline is who she is - she has strong religious views and makes no attempt to hide that. She is anti-abortion, anti-contraception, anti gay marriage and gay parents being able to adopt.

However, during my entire time as a mod, I don't think we ever had to ban Caroline because of her conduct. We did however have to ban or suspend dozens of other accounts because of their responses to her postings. Often people would abuse her, call her names, "pity her children" and all the other stuff she is still facing now. Yes your heart would sink when you'd see another post from Caroline because you'd know that 99% of forum users would disagree with her, and you'd have to go in and delete all these comments and ban users who wouldn't/couldn't play nice. And if you didn't do it quickly enough, you'd be getting messages enquiring why from other posters.

Despite the abuse she got from the forum users, or even from other posters questioning her choices, Caroline never stooped to abuse in return. She was always polite and articulate.

I am really horrified at what she is facing now. Caroline (and you have probably worked out who I am by now, so hello), I am totally with you on the sex/gender thing. You are very brave putting your head above the parapet and speaking out on this issue. The actions of some people in trying to get to you through your children are unacceptable. You have the right to your opinions. Not sure who said that they disagreed with a lot of what you say but will defend your right to say it, but they were spot on.

Keep speaking up for women and girls.

youllhavehadyourtea · 01/05/2019 13:55

FormerElsewhereModerator

This is a support thread.

All you needed to post was your last paragraph and final sentence.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 01/05/2019 14:14

SUPPORT THREAD get it? Also it wasn’t Caro who was the nightmare, it was the other bigots who couldn’t deal with someone with a differing opinion without abusing them.

siglingor · 01/05/2019 14:26

I've donated via PayPal too.

Lordamighty · 01/05/2019 15:48

I am a lurker on these threads but wanted to add my support. As soon as I read the Harrop tweet I made a donation via Gofund.

jhuizinga · 01/05/2019 16:06

I've donated via GoFundMe. (It would have been more if I'd seen Harrop's would-be intimidatory tweet at the time - might need to donate again.)

SpiderSocks · 01/05/2019 16:44

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2BthatUnnoticed · 01/05/2019 16:58

I read Former’s post as being supportive to Caro. So many people on Twitter etc are attempting to paint her in a negative light, this helps show how false those reports are. Stay strong Caro Flowers

nauticant · 01/05/2019 17:21

That's how I read it too. It was in the spirit of how we should welcome those who we disagree with so long as they are not malicious, GFs, etc.

Cheekyfeckery · 01/05/2019 17:31

Formers post wasn’t unsupportive. Didn’t read negatively to me at all.

In fact, I think it was very positive.

HearMeSnore · 01/05/2019 17:38

Thanks to those who gave the heads up about Harrop's post. There are no depths that man will not stoop to.

Donated.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/05/2019 17:59

Do these people not have really life people in their actual real lives who care enough about them to say 'look you've gone too far, this isn't going to end well for you because you are bullying and trying to intimidate people. Please for your own sake stop'. It's sad that they don't seem to.

Lordamighty · 01/05/2019 18:38

When you live in an echo chamber you only hear your own one sided view.

Hellmistress · 01/05/2019 18:53

Donated and under my real name, too. Ahm nae feartie!

Trousering · 01/05/2019 18:58

Thanks for the post formerelsewheremoderator, very interesting and supportive and good to hear.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 01/05/2019 19:12

What's happening to you is horrible, Caro. Flowers

FleetsumNJetsum · 01/05/2019 19:16

I've donated via GoFundMe. (It would have been more if I'd seen Harrop's would-be intimidatory tweet at the time - might need to donate again.)

I saw the tweet, and doubled my donation.

FannyCann · 01/05/2019 19:20

I have been doing my mandatory child protection/safeguarding training this afternoon.

The words "All parts of the health service have a statutory responsibility to safeguard children and young people. This includes GP's and staff in secondary and tertiary healthcare" reminded me that an NHS doctor and trainee GP is actively engaged in harassment and intimidation of the mother of five children, with the knock on effects of fear and the potential for harm to those children.

Also safeguarding children is a fundamental part of the duties of all police officers. But they seem to have forgotten that in this case.

Hope all goes well tomorrow Caro. Thanks

CadburysTastesVileNow · 01/05/2019 19:40

Yep. Hoping for a resounding win.

WelshMoth · 01/05/2019 19:49

Can someone please send me a link to Caro's goFund page. Am donating tonight.

PinaGrigio · 01/05/2019 20:06

Donated via PayPal to you Caro. All the very best for Thursday.

GassyAss · 01/05/2019 20:12

Donated. Stay strong Farrow family, we're with you. Flowers

Carowiththegoodhair · 01/05/2019 20:31

Thank you former I haven’t worked out who you are, your secret is safe. That really meant a lot to me, precisely because that forum was so hostile.

Re gay adoption, I am not implacably opposed, I think it depends on the individuals involved. If two adults can provide a loving home for a child then they should be supported and encouraged.

Rowantrees the GoFundMe was set up by a friend to combat Tombstone Teeth. Her aim in setting it up was that she could see I needed legal help and she wanted me always to have access to a lawyer. She would be very happy to talk to you.

Everything donated to the GoFundMe will go towards this current situation. I do not think this will be the first action against me.

Any surplus will go to a new umbrella fund, or I shall give donors the choice to vote where they want the money to go. I intend to be 100% transparent about costs.

No money will go to any pro-life charities or what is perceived as an anti LGB charity. I am happy to allow donors to choose and I suspect if not the umbrella charity then a rape crisis charity or domestic violence charity. I am also happy to sit down with a prominent feminist and get them if they agree, to go through the figures and allocate the surplus. Both PayPal and Go FundMe are going into one separate secondary account. I currently have around £6k raised.

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