Announcement from Glinner

[AdultHuman]

medium.com/@glinner/please-note-13b56fdee612

Hayden, Helen Islan, Susie Green - you all made utter fools of yourselves by running to the police to report tweets which are not threatening, not inciting violence - just simply stating facts.

Meanwhile, we'll all be enjoying FWR trips to see glinner's new show

Have we actually established that Hayden is a lawyer? Surely a criminal conviction would prevent that?

Hayden has a Law degree. Hayden is not a solicitor, and can never be due to a previous conviction. Anyone can call themselves a lawyer - it's not a protected term.

I'd LOVE to see Pope Ted!

Yes! A FWR meet-up at Pope Ted would be awesome!

I’m hoping there will be matinee performances so we can make a day trip & bring the kids (who love Father Ted). I don’t really understand why FT is an 18. DH and I rewatched a few before deciding the rating was tosh & enjoying it with our boys. Hoping Pope Ted be suitable for older kids/teens.

Excuse me for budging into Glinner's thread here again, but I'm fascinated by my deletion.

If this person (or the person who complained on their behalf) has no connections to their previous 'deadname'.

How would they be able to make a report to Mumsnet to claim that I've broken talk guidelines by connecting them to a 'deadname'.

Unless there are public connections to that 'deadname'.

Because, otherwise, how would I know which name to use?

And how would Mumsnet know I'd transgressed a huge boundary by using that name?

And why would Mumsnet know I was using the name I used in my post in connection with the person who complained, given that person has no connection to the name I used?

It's a conundrum.

Unless we all know what names are connected, and are just forbidden to make any connections, ever, to people who held a name at sometime and have decided to change their name.

Therefore I have no idea how Caitlyn Jenner is connected to Bruce Jenner. It's a mystery! A mystery that we should never discuss.

Anyone can call themselves a builder, it's not a protected term - doesn't mean they're not a cowboy.

And for anyone thinking I'm hijacking Glinner's thread - i think this is highly relevant and connected to Glinner's original problem!

Writ large with regards to the current deletions on this thread! (And yay to Pope Ted!)

Hmm. I have inkling as to why the golfing lawyer might have withdrawn.

There's a court process called an application for security for costs.

I'll just leave this here with no further comment.

www.franciswilksandjones.co.uk/site/our_services/litigation-funding/qanda_litf/further-information-lf/what-is-security-for-costs.html

Hi all,

Here's a reminder of our trans moderation guidelines.

And our general talk guidelines.

Please bear them in mind when posting.

For context

www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/exclusive-transgender-lawyer-sues-father-ted-writer-graham-linehan

Funny you should mention that Yam. A very nasty individual once tried to sue my Dh for rather a lot of money. Dh had done nothing wrong but had to get a lawyer. Then of course the complainant had to provide security of costs and as predicted by our lawyer, the complaint was very quickly dropped. Apparently it wasn’t the first time this person had started legal proceedings.

It’s almost as if some people might just do this kind of thing, as some kind of hobby.

An excerpt:

She claims that Linehan is a transphobe who publicised confidential information by referring to her former male identities in his tweets. She told RollOnFriday, "My right to not reveal that link has been removed from me forever now". Hayden maintains a public YouTube channel which included several videos featuring her as a man and which included her male name in their titles. However she deleted them from the platform this week. Hayden told RollOnFriday, "The videos were published many years ago long before my formal transition", and that until recently "nowhere within the public domain was there any document saying Tony Halliday/Steven Hayden is now Stephanie Hayden".

Hayden claims that, thanks to Linehan and The Times, "a worldwide audience" is now aware of her previous gender. Asked whether her profile as a transgender activist meant that most people would have become aware fairly quickly that she was once a man, Hayden said, "I am not a Transgender Activist. I was known only by a small specialist Twitter audience until recently".

Hayden said she would not sue the newspaper over its interview because "I believe in press freedom", but, "If the line is crossed by The Times then I will not hesitate to commence legal action".

Don’t forget that the lovely Mrs Linehan wrote Motherland. Now that is a perfect mother’s day gift.

Delighted for ye Glinner Great for you and your family. Go on ye ride!

Don’t forget that the lovely Mrs Linehan wrote Motherland. Now that is a perfect mother’s day gift.

I did not know that! Loved Motherland.

Everything about Hayden's statement tells us that Hayden had no case that could succeed in law. Utter humiliation for Hayden, here.

Fascinating about the security for costs. It appears the legal system has its checks and balances after all.

There is also this: www.gov.uk/guidance/vexatious-litigants, although it may be a bit complicated.

I love Motherland.

Full writer credits : Helen and Graham Linehan, Holly Walsh and Sharon Hogan.

Graham directed it to. What a bloody talented family, and according to Wiki, series 2 and 3 have already been commissioned.

Mind you, with the current Atmosphere at the BBC, will the series have to be renamed PersonHood or even Those Identifying As Mothers’-hood

Everything about Hayden's statement tells us that Hayden had no case that could succeed in law. Utter humiliation for Hayden, here.

There is a poll on this Telegraph piece,
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10/07/transgender-lawyer-launches-uks-first-deadnaming-case-against/

asking if 'deadnaming' a transgender person should be actionable in a court of law. 93% no.

Very happy to hear this. Thank you and well done Glinner and family.

Yam that page you linked to is really important I think. There will be many women who these fear baseless and expensive court cases so it was really interesting to read this explanation about defendants being pursued by claimants who have "nothing to lose" (or by claimants whose backers have deep pockets), and how this may link to abuse of process.

"The benefit of applying for Security for Costs is that the Claimant now faces a very real risk of loss, such that monies have to be paid into Court and will be lost if the claim is unsuccessful. Accordingly, this mitigates any risk that litigation funding could become an abuse of process." www.franciswilksandjones.co.uk/site/our_services/litigation-funding/qanda_litf/further-information-lf/what-is-security-for-costs.html

www.franciswilksandjones.co.uk/site/our_services/litigation-funding/dealing-with-abuse-of-process/

ErrolTheDragon

On the issue of so-called "deadnaming", the GRA 2004 mandates it when it comes to the Birth Certificate of any children who have a parent who transitions:

"Section 12 Parenthood
The fact that a person’s gender has become the acquired gender under this Act does not affect the status of the person as the father or mother of a child."

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/section/12

Yet again, that Lobby aims to deceive everyone; so-called "deadnaming" is irrelevant; it is not included anywhere in any UK law.

[So-called "Misgendering" is irrelevant in UL law also.]

Oops!

[So-called "Misgendering" is irrelevant in UL law also.]

Should be: [So-called "Misgendering" is irrelevant in UK law also.]

Congratulations Glinner and thank you. Must be a weight off.

How did SH and the raging TRAs come up with £28k? For all they know Graham's lawyer could be a mate, charging mate's rates of a drink and a family ticket to Pope Ted.

I mean they thought FPFW spent tens of thousands on ads and all feminist groups are funded by far right millionaires 😆

I know, they have no clue

My good friend who is a solicitor will do pro bono (almost) for friends in exchange for a nice meal out.