Announcement from Glinner

[AdultHuman]

medium.com/@glinner/please-note-13b56fdee612

An apologist rather than a perpetrator, is the way what I've seen would suggest.

Thank you to glinner
Standing at over 5,000 now.
That's a lot in 24 hours

Given that there is obviously a risk of deletion, demonstrated by earlier posters, would it be helpful to simply link to the statements in question and let readers come to their own conclusions:

twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1002509766638350338

Shouldn't be anything deletable in simply pointing towards words written by those who are being discussed? Factual, objective and people can read and make up their own minds.

Wow. It was at £3.6k when I donated a couple of hours ago.
Vancouver Rape crisis and legal help for victims of vexatious litigants seems an excellent cause to support whilst making a statement.

NB: Link supplied above is only part of a really phenomenal thread put together by Dr Em last year. Worth a full read too.

So let me get this right, the two doctors reckon that child marriage is ok because it's not garden variety 'Western' pedophilia, and them people over there just have different moral standards and cultural expectations?
I find that absolutely chilling.

By donating it to worthy causes, Glinner is showing who he is.

He is a kind, caring man who cares about women.

Thank you Glinner

them people over there just have different moral standards and cultural expectations

It's quite a common colonial type viewpoint that. "Developing" countries needs women's toilets because they are poor and brown and ignorant. We don't because we are more enlightened than "them"

FGM when done for cultural reasons is wrong, but castrating your child and having their penis removed is fine for different cultural reasons.

Some cultures are backward and ignorant, the "noble savage", other (white) cultures are enlightened and civilised.

It's a pretty shitty way of looking at the world but very prevalent.

Of course, I just find it particularly shocking that a pair of doctors would approach the issue of child marriage from that perspective rather than thinking what it does to the child.

I find it shocking that either of them are doctors.

I always believed that doctors had to be empathetic caring people - as you say it is interesting that in a case like that they come across as almost protecting the honour of the man, rather than giving a shit about the child.

Exactly it’s all going to be fine
Great post.

The 2 doctors should be ashamed the way they talked about that

Cold and chilling like they were talking about specismns . Not real people

they come across as almost protecting the honour of the man, rather than giving a shit about the child

Exactly that. I'm guessing they've both deleted those tweets?

Deleted tweets?

I always believed that doctors had to be empathetic caring people

Unfortunately life has taught me, in sometimes horrific and humiliating ways, that this is so far from reality. I’ve had some incredibly unkind male doctors who really appeared to not give a shit about women at all, or my quality of life. Like those two misogynistic arrogant fools.

Then there is Harold Shipman I suppose...

I suppose that as well as the empathetic and caring medicine can also attract those with somewhat of a god complex?

I always believed that doctors had to be empathetic caring people

I think that's a misconception. There's all sorts, of course, but It's reckoned some (esp surgeons), have psychopathic traits, but put to good purpose. (There's a book 'The Wisdom of Psychpaths' which delves this)

I think it's only after the last 9 or 10 years that the new way of interviewing potential medics (MMI) has come in.

Whilst it's still not an exact science, it invesigates and probes the potential students' softer skills of communication, ethics, interpersonal skills, and collaboration.

Much more than just entry-qualifications of 'yay, you're likely to have great A levels, come on in and be a doctor'.

I suspect there's still a huge hangover in training timelines for those who are fit into the 'yay, you got good grades' in the medical profession, so my expectation of their skills in humnanity remains low!

Harrop, Jessen et al are just products of the system that didn't care about your softer-skills, just went with 'are you a bit clever and can you study well for your A-levels'.

And I'm concscious that I'm adding to a thread--diversion here.

So, back to the thread's main points:

A Summary:

• OP linked to Glinner's news about his court case.

= Steph came on to 'educate' us all what that really meant in Steph's eyes.

= Lots of people went 'bleurgh, you're showing yourself up here Steph'

= People connected Steph to other people Steph's connected to, who lots of us here have concerns about, including two Drs.

• In the meantime, Glinner suggested that any monies donated to a crowdfunder that was set up in his name, but not by him, should be diverted to the Vancouver Rape Relief Centre, and others who might be subject to similar vexatious claims that he'd been subject to.

(And some of us highlighted why Steph, and Steph's connections give us cause for concern in the fight for women and children's protections and rights)

He is the man. The best man. Imagine being his wife and feeling so proud of a decent man. I hope my boys have the same integrity. I also know my boys are human and make mistakes. Fundamentally though the best guys care about females. I believe this is true of graham I’m not asking for perfection

I just want a decent guy. Warts and all. Graham comes close

£5890

Steph came on to 'educate' us all what that really meant in Steph's eyes..

I think the word you were searching for is "transplain"..

It seems as though Marcus Brigstocke has donated. Assuming that's genuine, I didn't see that coming.

Yeah, well, Brigstocke is another one (see also Mitchell, D.) not usually afraid to speak up, who’s been notably quiet on the trans issue.

Imagine being [Linehan’s] wife and feeling so proud of a decent man... Fundamentally though the best guys care about females.

This.

All. Day. Long.