Times article on transgender athletes; Alex Kay Jelski

[MrsSnippyPants]

Getting his arse handed to him on Twitter. Does anyone have a share token?

Is this it: Times I dont have a share token but went on Alex's Twitter feed and there is a link to this article there.

Oh god. He starts with
"I know you won't agree and you're all going to be really AGGRESSIVE about that"
And finishes with "you're all NASTY human scum picking on vulnerable innocents"

Anyway, thanks for that mate. Most people think sport is segregated by sex for a reason.

He's one of the gay men who've known exactly what the differences between men and women are when choosing a surrogate, isn't he?

How disappointing that the times hasn't opened this article for comments. Here's what I'd like to ask him:

Do you accept that there's a difference between sex (biological category) and gender (internal, subjective psychological state some people say they experience)?

Do you accept that in order for competitive sports to make sense, we have to have some sort of concept of fair competition, and what constitutes a level playing field?

Why do you think we have sex-segregated competitions at all?

Do you accept that there are physiological differences in muscular strength, VOmax, anatomy, skeletal shape, etc., between men and women (the biological sex categories), and that these differences are relevant to sporting performance and thus to what constitutes a fair competition?

If you answer yes to these questions (and I find it hard to see how anyone not in the grip of some anti-scientific delusion would answer no to them), how do you defend the conclusion of your article?

Women are not artificially weakened men.

Nasty little misogynist.

He's one of the gay men who've known exactly what the differences between men and women are when choosing a surrogate, isn't he?

Oh really? Well I guess that’s not surprising.

@FermatsTheorem comments are open - get on there and tell him what you think of him.

Nasty little misogynist

Ah well, he is deservedly getting ripped to shreds on twitter.

twitter.com/AlexKJTimes/status/1110951478288629761

Yeps he knows the difference when woman is useful to carry a baby for him
That’s when he sees a difference

Apart from that no difference at all
Well apart from biology

So we are different not outliers of men

But when we are useful to this guy he can see the difference

So fed up with these nasty nasty men and users of women’s bodies yet deniers of women

Fuck off alex

So fucking racist too

That article! FFS.

Comments now open btw

share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/there-is-no-evidence-of-a-crusade-to-obliterate-womens-sport-qnp6nw6b2?shareToken=13b8fe0b7737299e67793e1e93b052ca

I am getting really fed up listening to men telling women that women should give up their sports for men.

What a fucking TOSSER!

"They, like most of us, are not experts though."

So Martina and Sharron Davies are not experts. Well I think they probably have more claim to "expert" knowledge than Alex.

What a nasty article.

Omg did he actually say that about Jewish people and black people

What an absolute knobber

I am getting really fed up listening to men telling women that women should give up their sports for men.

And that we shouldn't mind being made into a subset of our own sex with a corresponding label and we should open up female spaces to males etc etc etc.

I pissed at The Times for printing this hateful misogynistic bile.

recent BBC article discussing ruling in response to Caster Semenya
includes significant comment from Sebastian Coe:

"Coe, who won two Olympic titles at 1500m and has been head of the IAAF since 2015, told Australia's Daily Telegraph last weekend: "The reason we have gender classification is because if you didn't then no woman would ever win another title or another medal or break another record in our sport." (continues)

www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/47690512

It’s like black women jewish women are not athletes

Alex we are all women whatever our religion or colour or which country we come from which gives us special genetics.

Women

Amazing how many of these men who think biological women are mythological creatures manage to find those unicorns when they want to exploit the womb of one for their own gain.

I really don't know where to start with this 'article'

This isn't the first incredibly blinkered, sexist piece from male sports journalists.
This isn't the first incredibly blinkeed, sexist piece from gay male sports journalists.

(NAGMSJ etc)

I pissed at The Times for printing this hateful misogynistic bile.

I get where you are coming from but actually it's useful for people to read exactly what the 'other side' of this debate is. I suspect The Times knew exactly what they were doing publishing this, although it's cowardly that they didn't allow comments (probably a stipulation by the author).

Minorities have forever been grouped together and been served up to the majority as threatening: don’t let gay men teach your children or they’ll get AIDS, don’t let black men in the same shops as you or they’ll rape your women, don’t do a business deal with a Jew or he will steal your money. Oh and look, here’s an example. Or you could let people quietly go about their lives and acknowledge that they have been through hell compared to you.

The use of 'your women' shows his intended audience is male. He's not interest in see this from a womens point of view.

It's a call to men to stand up to women who want something if their own.

Times comments are now open (but my phone is playing silly buggers). Both the comments section and the replies on his Twitter feed are great. Hadley Freeman has absolutely destroyed him over his anti-Semitism.